UKTeX V88 #17 Friday 10 June 1988 DosTex in the Archives... [Clayton M. Elwell: Re: aftopl] 3 column TURBOTEX Cyrillic fonts VMS->UNIX FTP FTP problems with [public.tex.amsfonts] ftp failure TeX for Suns and Sequent Symmetry pictex GF to PK anyone? Re: TeX on ATARI ST ? --------------------------------- Editor Peter Abbott I think it might help if I explain the deadline for inclusion in the digest. The weekly system seems to work quite well apart from some rejections (usually due to disc full messages). The digest is sent by a batch job which runs after 1700 hours BST to avoid slowing down the mail service here at Aston. I try and include any material that is here when I arrive on the Friday morning. Material which arrives on Friday is not therefore guaranteed to be included in that weeks issue. Meanwhile due to the efforts of the community we now have TWO mail servers available and details will shortly be added to 000aston.readme. 1. Send a mail message to tex-server@uk.ac.ed with the file name in the subject field and you should get the file returned. Any errors or problems with this one should be referred to g.toal@uk.ac.ed 2 Send a mail message to texserver@uk.ac.aston.spock and include in the message ignored text --- help If you get the help file back it explains the facilities which include btoa and compress. Any errors or problems with this one should be referred to alien@uk.ac.essex.ese (Adrian Clark) My thanks to Graham and Adrian for provideing this service. aaareadme.txt in public.vms.lse has been updated. A VMS version of makeindex is now available in aston.spock::[public.vms.makeindex] The LSE files which have been requested are now available in aston.spock::[public.vms.lsedit] The missing files for DosTeX have now arrived. ---------- From Barbara Beeton in connection with software distributed by tug The idxtex & glotex programs and the lse modules are distributed by tug, but there is no real restriction on their redistribution; however, the manuals for these, which are quite useful, are available only from tug. tug's publications and course program are the main sources of funds for expanding its offerings; annual dues are really set to cover only the expenses of producing and distributing tugboat. so if you do redistribute the software that tug has been authorized to distribute, i'd encourage you to in turn encourage anyone who gets it to acquire the documentation directly from tug. ---------- Latest TeXhax in the Archive is #54 --------------------------------- Received: from hawaii by kukini.CompSci.Bristol.ac.uk id aa07374; 5 Jun 88 23:50 BST To: abbottp@uk.ac.aston cc: neil@uk.ac.bristol.compsci Subject: DosTex in the Archives... Date: Sun, 05 Jun 88 23:49:58 +0100 From: neil@uk.ac.bristol.compsci Message-ID: <8806052350.aa00335@hawaii.CompSci.Bristol.ac.uk> I've ftp'd all the files mentioned in UKTeX V88 #16. Got them on my PC and tried to install them... Looking at the instructions in 111read.me it appears the important .BAT files are missing from the archive (i.e TCFLOPPY.BAT). Please could they be found... I've so been looking forward to a TeX at home.... Neil --------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Jun 88 9:14:29 GMT From: Sebastian Rahtz To: info-tex@uk.ac.aston.mail Subject: [Clayton M. Elwell: Re: aftopl] Clayton Elwell just sent me this converter from Adobe Font Metric files to TeX .PL format (for conversion to .TFM). Could you make it available somewhere in your archive for those who are interested, as a backup to the set of LaserWriter .TFMs? sebastian ----- Forwarded message # 1: Via: uk.ac.newcastle; 2 Jun 88 20:45 GMT Received: from uk.ac.earn-relay by uk.ac.newcastle; Thu, 2 Jun 88 18:32:49 +0100 Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 4422; Thu, 02 Jun 88 18:34:41 BS Received: from CUNYVM.BITNET by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 4383; Thu, 02 Jun 88 18:34:39 B Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 3680; Thu, 02 Jun 88 10:15:02 Received: from tut.cis.ohio-state.edu by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Thu, 02 Jun 88 10:14:19 Received: by tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.54/2.0) id AA21208; Thu, 2 Jun 88 10:13:44 E Received: by ichthyosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu (3.2/2.0) id AA03877; Thu, 2 Jun 88 10:15:08 E Date: Thu, 2 Jun 88 10:15:08 EDT >From: "Clayton M. Elwell" Message-Id: <8806021415.AA03877@ichthyosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu> To: spqr Subject: Re: aftopl Here is aftopl (after the line of '----'s). 'psdvi' is a PostScript DVI driver that I wrote that uses the native Adobe fonts instead of the Computer Modern ones. Clayton ------------------------------------------------------------------------- /* * aftopl -- convert Adobe Font Metric file to TeX Font Metric file * * Written by Clayton M. Elwell, Ohio State University * version 2.0 / 25 April 1988 * * This program is in the public domain. There are no restrictions * on its use or distribution, although if you are putting together * a commercial product you might want to put in some error checking. * :-). * +++Editor - The file is available from aston.spock::[public.tex]aftopl.c +++ --------------------------------- Date: 3-JUN-1988 12:06:52 GMT -01:00 From: THOWARD@UK.AC.MAN.CS.CGU To: ABBOTTP@UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL Subject: 3 column Peter, I seem to remember the subject of threecolumn macros coming up in UKTeX. Does this ring a bell? I couldn't see anything in the ASTON archive about it. I'd like to experiment with threecolumn layout for my `magazine'. Thanks yet again Toby Toby Howard Computer Graphics Unit, Department of Computer Science, Manchester University, Oxford Road, Manchester, England, M13 9PL. Phone: +44 61 275 6224 Janet: toby@uk.ac.man.cs.cgu ARPA: toby%cgu.cs.man.ac.uk@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk Editor - All I do is set the width that I need and when the `magazine' is ready take each page and embed in a parbox viz. \parbox[t]{required width}{column1}\parbox........ I also sometimes include extra space between the parboxes. Not very elegant but it works especially if you use supertabular in place of tabular. +++ --------------------------------- Date: 3-JUN-1988 14:46:25 GMT From: S050@UK.AC.UEA.CPC865 To: INFO-TEX@UK.AC.ASTON To those of you who are thinking of purchasing TURBOTEX for an MS-DOS machine ( see Tugboat vol 9, no 1 for the advert) - a couple of warnings based on a very brief aquaintance of the product. It DOES include the LATEX macros, but the documentation states that LATEX isn't available for this version due to memory limitations. Thus for those of you who want a version of LaTeX on a PC its back to square one. The size of TEX (VIRTEX + preloaded plain) is large. It will run on my AT (MS-DOS 3.2) with NO TSRs, but is too big to even allow KEYBUK to be loaded. Laurie Benfield. --------------------------------- Date: 4-JUN-1988 14:03:37 GMT From: FPS@UK.AC.IMPERIAL.CC.VAXA To: INFO-TEX@UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL Cyrillic fonts, both the AMS and Metafoundry ones, were generated with old MetaFont (MF78?), and are really only suitable for proper laser printers (i.e. write black ones). Insofar as they were tuned, they were tunes for the Canon CX, I think. Another consequence of creation with the old, non-upwards compatible MF, is that they are available only in rather restricted size. Male and female symbols (among many others) are also available from the Metafoundry. Distributers of Metafoundry fonts in the UK include TeXpert systems & (perhaps) UniTeX. One of the easiest ways to find out about TeX availability is to join TUG (or just read TUGboat). I don't want to nag on about this, but any site using TeX (or LaTeX etc), but not subscribing to TUG needs their braces balanced. malcolm clark --------------------------------- Date: 6 Jun 88 10:02:38 BST (Mon) Message-Id: <8806061002.Ag07490@uk.ac.stir.cs> X-Mailer: Ag [V1.0-Alpha] From: Sam Nelson To: abbottp@aston.mail Subject: VMS->UNIX FTP Having, unfortunately for me (because I am not particularly VMS-literate), several VMS microVAXen to look after, two of which are X.25-connected, I have found that there are some VMS file types which CBS FTP refuses to give up to the net. In particular, `Stream_LF' files produced as output from C programs will not TRANSFER, and generate the %TRANSFER-F-INCOMPAT error message. The only way around this that I know at the moment is to create a zero-length file of a TRANSFERable type, and then append the unTRANSFERable file to it. This is messy, as it generates a warning about incompatible record formats, but it does appear to work. Incidentally, it seems unlikely that it's a UNIX-end problem. Assuming one can persuade UNIX FTP to preserve bit seven when required, any old string of bytes can be FTPed in or out of a UNIX machine, whereas TRANSFER refuses to send a `Stream_LF' file to another VMS MicroVAX unless TRANSFER/CODE=FAST is used. At the risk of annoying any VMS enthusiasts listening, I would tend to claim this as a fundamental strength of the UNIX notion of files as featureless byte lists :-). Sam. +++Editor - Do you get the same error when using SPOCK? +++ --------------------------------- Received: from dsl.eng.cam.ac.uk by xrly.eng.cam.ac.uk; Mon, 6 Jun 88 14:57:23 BST From: Mark Plumbley Date: Mon, 6 Jun 88 14:56:19 BST Message-Id: <21866.8806061356@dsl.eng.cam.ac.uk> To: info-tex@uk.ac.aston Subject: FTP problems with [public.tex.amsfonts] Peter, I've had the same problem as Ian Moor (UKTeX V88 #16) trying to fetch files from [PUBLIC.TEX.AMSFONTS.GF300] [PUBLIC.TEX.AMSFONTS.PXL300] [PUBLIC.TEX.AMSFONTS.TFM] on `aston.spock'. For example, I get rejected with: > Invalid value in command: > - filename "[public.tex.amsfonts.pxl300]eufb10.1500pxl" record format > incompatible with transfer code. > VAX/VMS FTP (80) Version 4.3a. I've been using cpf(1) on a VAX/Unix system, with and without the binary transfer option. I've also tried the Edinburgh mail server, and that seems to have the same problems with these `awkward' files. Fetching files from [PUBLIC.TEX.AMSFONTS.PL] is OK, however. A possible explanation for this problem may be the file [PUBLIC.TEX.AMSFONTS]AA_WARNING.DOC, which reads: > WARNING > Some of the files in this directories are of (Record Format = Stream_lf), > while > Tex usually prefers (Record Format = Fixed lenght 512 bytes). > Therefore they must first be transformed. > This changes have already been made for all AMSFONTS files which are in > [.300gf], [.pxl300], [.tfm] subdirectories. > > December, 22 1987 Max Calvani Is is possible that the FTP server cannot handle (Record Format = Fixed length 512 bytes) files? (or only to other VMS sites, perhaps?) Does anyone know of a simple way to get round this? Mark Plumbley. +++Editor - If Max has the files in the correct format I now have the means to copy the files from his system to the archive (indirectly). Perhaps you could let me have a list of the files affected. +++ --------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Jun 88 18:32:37 BST From: Ian Moor To: abbottp@uk.ac.aston Subject: ftp failure Message-ID: <8806061832.aa13692@ivax.doc.ic.ac.uk> Ftp from here using a binary option and via the Edinburgh mail server of the file I mentioned before fails with the message record format incompatible with transfer code. I think I may have given you the incorrect file spec : it is [PUBLIC.TEX.AMSFONTS.PXL300]EURM10.300PK. It may be possible that our ftp here does not perform binary transfer properly just because it accepts the option doesn't mean it will work. --------------------------------- From: Gerry Pratt Date: Tue, 7 Jun 88 16:12:20 GMT Message-Id: <21163.8806071612@derek.cs.kl.ac.uk> To: abbott@uk.ac.aston.mail Subject: TeX for Suns and Sequent Symmetry Peter, I have got a copy of 000directory.list by FTP from aston. I wondered if it is possible to get a copy of TeX for our Sun 3/50 and 3/60 running SunOS 3.5 ( probably moving to 4.0 in the summer ) and for our Sequent Symmetry mainframe ( running DYNIX which is BSD 4.2/System V UNIX). The aston files contain a large number of files and I'm not sure at present which ones I'll need first. Thanks in advance, Gerry Pratt Workstation Support - University of Keele Computer Centre NEWCASTLE - Staffs - ST5 5BG --------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Jun 88 12:07:34 BST From: Ian Moor To: info-tex@uk.ac.aston Subject: pictex Message-ID: <8806081207.aa01979@ivax.doc.ic.ac.uk> I have just fetched the file pictex.shar from the archive, according to the README file, the manual should be there, but only in dvi format, actually there is no sign of the manual! The only dvi file in the shar is corrupted. A texhax posting I saw said that the manual was available in hardcopy for a charge, a posting on this list said that the manual was NOT available in machine readable form. I took the texhax posting to mean, you could get it in either form (like the GNU-Emacs manual) -- does anybody know what the situation is ? PicTeX looks too complex to use without a manual, if there were some sample input I could at least try it to decide whether the manual is worth buying. --------------------------------- Received: from acorn by kestrel.Ukc.AC.UK with UUCP id aa14348; 9 Jun 88 2:10 BST Received: by acorn.UUCP (5.51/SMI-3.2) id AA13003; Thu, 9 Jun 88 00:10:42 BST Date: Thu, 9 Jun 88 00:10:42 BST From: Graham Toal Message-Id: <8806082310.AA13003@acorn.UUCP> To: info-tex@uk.ac.aston.mail Subject: GF to PK anyone? The last time I tried to get a GFtoPK working it was from a source which was clearly early and only partially working. Does anyone have a known to be working version of this (web source preferred). I would be most grateful if one could be mailed to me: I'm in the process of generating a full set of fonts (70-odd fonts at 7 magsteps) and they are taking their toll of my disk-space! Thanks; Graham. --------------------------------- Date: 10 Jun 88 02:28:18 bst From: G.Toal @ uk.ac.edinburgh Subject: Re: TeX on ATARI ST ? To: E.Moncrieff @ uk.ac.edinburgh cc: info-tex@uk.ac.aston.mail Message-ID: <10 Jun 88 02:28:18 bst 050822@EMAS-A> In-reply-to: Your message <09 Jun 88 15:38:52 bst 090175@EMAS-A> [This mail is in reply to a question from E.Moncrieff@uk.ac.ed - I'm copying to uktex as it may be of wider interest.] Dear Erik, I had some hours to spare while making a gigantic metafont run (!) so I've been going through all my files to find an Atari ST tex in the UK. I find it hard to believe, but there doesn't seem to be one... [If anyone on uktex knows of an Atari ST TeX, please tell] What I did find was a commercial implementation by some people from TH Darmstadt Institut f\"ur Theoretische Informatik (Detig, Guntermann & Schrod). I only have partial info on where to buy it, however: Kettler EDV-Consulting 8172 Lenggries Postfach 1345 Telefon (08042) 8081 Telex 5 26 202 kec d What's worse is I'm not sure whether this is even in Germany - I've a feeling this address is for the Dutch distributor! I also have an address which is certainly in Holland: Kuiken AS-Consulting Value Added Systems P.O. Box 65791 NL 2506 EB Den Haag Holland. The Dutch price is f. 545.83 for TeX, and f. 270.83 for a dot-matrix driver. (A guilden is about 3.50 to the pound) A short extract from the documentation: ST-TeX is delivered on 6 double sided 3.5 inch floppy disks. These contain the following items * ST-TeX formatter disk * ST-TeX FMT Installation disk * ST-TeX utilities disk * ST-TeX preview disk * 2 ST-TeX disks with fonts for previewing ST-TeX can operate on an Atari-ST computer with at least 1 MB RAM and double sided floppy disk drives. The use of a hard disk is recommended. ----------- [If anyone has used this could you let us know please?] Hope this answers the question, Graham. --------------------------------- !! !! !! Replies/submissions to info-tex@uk.ac.aston please !! distribution changes to info-tex-request@uk.ac.aston please !! !! end of issue