UKTeX V89 #43 Friday 8 December 1989 Bounced mail to info-tex *** PKZIP 1.02 for MS-DOS available *** *** ZIP-file unpacker for Unix available *** LaTeX problem - lost text. Alignments: where does TeX find the glue if none occurs ? Sccs keywords in LaTeX LaTeX style query Editor Peter Abbott Issue #44 will be despatched on Friday December 21st and will be the LAST ONE FOR 1989. IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT Since the software was last updated info-tex@aston is rejected but infotex@aston still works. Please use the latter form for the time being. IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT Latest TeXhax in the Archive is #108 Latest TeXmag in the Archive is V3N3 --------------------------------- Your mail could not be delivered to info-tex@aston because Transfer of file Mail to ASTON failed, Mail failure at site UK.AC.ASTON, username CBS%ASTON.KIRK::ABBOTTP.:, Bad user/rights-list identifier.. The text of your message is reproduced here. From: Dave Love Date: Fri, 1 Dec 89 15:07 GMT Subject: Re: spiderweb Message-Id: <01 DEC 1989 15:40:33 FX@UK.AC.DARESBURY.NNGA> I didn't see the original request for spider for some reason. The copy in the archive is a little out-of-date. There is a more recent one which I can supply. It is UN*X-specific to some extent as BHK says, but only really to the extent of requiring awk, & you can get the GNU version of that (for MSDOS, even?). The major languages of interest that currently have spider descriptions are C, C++, Ada, (G)awk, PostScript as far as I know. I have some experience of using it, which may be of interest. I have actually coerced it into almost doing something it is explicitly not supposed to do -- cope with fortran, or a dialect thereof. (The tangle o/p needs some post-processing at present.) Although it is claimed that you can produce a new web for an algol-like language in a few hours, I'd say that was rather optimistic! It's an awful lot better than starting from scratch, though. There are some language dependencies involved, mainly in the tokenising parts e.g., insistence on double quotes around strings. These are simple to hack, though. The main difficulty is in understanding how the prettyprinting grammar works. There are some undocumented #defines which you may need to check on if building a web for a new language. I have in hand producing a version that will be usable with LaTeX rather than plain, but don't hold your breath. Dave Love, SERC Daresbury Lab. ------------------------ From: RMCS_TEX "BHK and CNK (from RMCS)" Subj: *** PKZIP 1.02 for MS-DOS available *** Version 1.02 of the PKZIP archiving utility is available from the Aston archive. Version 1.02 offers a new compression technique ("imploding") which is more efficient than those offered by the previous version available at Aston (v0.92). Version 1.02 will unpack ZIP-files made by earlier versions of PKZIP, but earlier versions are not likely to unpack ZIP-files made by version 1.02. All MS-DOS software announced after this message will be compressed using this new version, so if you use MS-DOS TeXware, I recommend that you fetch this new version. The files to fetch are: [TEX-ARCHIVE.ARCHIVE-UTILS.ZIP.MS-DOS]00README.TXT [TEX-ARCHIVE.ARCHIVE-UTILS.ZIP.MS-DOS]PKZ102.BOO Niel Kempson (pp Aston TeX archive group) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + JANET: rmcs_tex@uk.ac.aston.kirk + + BITNET: rmcs_tex%uk.ac.aston.kirk@ukacrl + + INTERNET: rmcs_tex%uk.ac.aston.kirk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk + + UUCP: {mcvax,ukc,uunet}!kirk.aston.ac.uk!rmcs_tex + + Smail: School of Electrical Engineering & Science, Royal Military + + College of Science, Shrivenham, SWINDON SN6 8LA, U.K. + + Phone: Swindon (0793) 785687 (UK), +44-793-785687 (International) + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------ A program to unpack MS-DOS ZIP archives on a Unix system is now available from the Aston TeX archive. This can be useful when you only want to transfer (usually slowly, with kermit) just a few files from the ZIP-file down to your PC. The program was written by Samuel H. Smith and made more portable by George M. Snipe . It can unpack ZIP-files created by PKZIP 1.02 or earlier. Thanks are due to Graham Toal for sending to me. If you're interested, the files to get are: [TEX-ARCHIVE.ARCHIVE-UTILS.ZIP.UNIX]00README.TXT [TEX-ARCHIVE.ARCHIVE-UTILS.ZIP.UNIX]CRC32.C [TEX-ARCHIVE.ARCHIVE-UTILS.ZIP.UNIX]CRC32.H [TEX-ARCHIVE.ARCHIVE-UTILS.ZIP.UNIX]PORTABLE.DOC [TEX-ARCHIVE.ARCHIVE-UTILS.ZIP.UNIX]UNZIP.C [TEX-ARCHIVE.ARCHIVE-UTILS.ZIP.UNIX]UNZIP.DOC Niel Kempson (pp Aston TeX archive group) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + JANET: rmcs_tex@uk.ac.aston.kirk + + BITNET: rmcs_tex%uk.ac.aston.kirk@ukacrl + + INTERNET: rmcs_tex%uk.ac.aston.kirk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk + + UUCP: {mcvax,ukc,uunet}!kirk.aston.ac.uk!rmcs_tex + + Smail: School of Electrical Engineering & Science, Royal Military + + College of Science, Shrivenham, SWINDON SN6 8LA, U.K. + + Phone: Swindon (0793) 785687 (UK), +44-793-785687 (International) + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------ Via: UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL; Mon, 4 Dec 89 16:37 GMT Via: UK.AC.HULL.CC.SEQUENT; Mon, 4 Dec 89 16:38 GMT Via: uk.ac.hull; Mon, 4 Dec 89 16:37:30 GMT Date: Mon, 4 Dec 89 16:38:01 GMT From: R.A.Reese@uk.ac.hull Subject: LaTeX problem - lost text. Message-Id: < 4 Dec 89 16:38:01 A1021A@UK.AC.HULL> The following was found in TurboTeX version 2.0 on PC. This describes itself as TeX 2.98 and LaTeX 2.09. Could other people please check it on other systems? \documentstyle{article} \nofiles \begin{document} This text illustrates a bug in LaTeX---the tabbing and typeface commmands should be orthogonal, but seem to interfere and no warning message is output. The application is a sort of hanging paragraph, putting multiple authors for a paper in a conference programme. \begin{tabbing} {\tt 09:15-10:30 }\ \= \hspace{3em}\= \hspace{1.8in}\=\kill test {\tt 17:00-18:00 } \>Registration\\ {\tt 18:00} \>Contributed papers.\\ \>\>{\em Dr I M First and}\\ \>\> \hspace{1em} {\em I Really-Didit}\> This works.\\ \>\>{\em Dr I M First and\\ \>\> \hspace{1em} I Really-Didit}\> This loses an author and a line.\\ \>\> Dr I M First and\\ \>\> \hspace{1em} I Really-Didit\> These names are not emphasised.\\ {\tt 17:30 } \>Close of conference\\ \end{tabbing} \end{document} Allan Reese R.A.Reese@hull.ac.uk Post: Computer Centre JANET: R.A.Reese@uk.ac.hull | University of Hull Internet: R.A.Reese%hull.ac.uk@cunyvm.cuny.edu | Hull HU6 7RX EARN/BITNET: R.A.Reese%hull.ac.uk@UKACRL | UK |Phone +44 482 465296 |FAX +44 482 466205 - ----------------------------------------------- ASSESS - GLASGOW '90 - SPSS Users Meeting - ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 DEC 89 19:06:28 BST From: CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA Subject: Alignments: where does TeX find the glue if none occurs ? Actually-to: Sender: JANET"CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA" Message-Id: <00002254_0006DA90.0092EDE4692F7500$117_13@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA> Reply-to: Philip Taylor (RHBNC) Originally-to: $UK-TEX Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.5 ( 13-OCT-1989 14:07:27 ) Whilst I was setting \haligns inside \valigns, I came across a strange phenomenon whereby TeX failed to report an underfull box. Continually simplifying my code led to the following: \halign {#\cr 1\cr 12\cr } which TeX sets quite happily. My question is, "why ?". There is no glue in the preamble, and no glue in the either of the two rows, yet TeX quite happily pads out the "1" row until it is the same length as the "12" row (the space is put {\it after} the "1"). Experiments suggest that if TeX is given the slightest opportunity to avoid using this non-existent glue, it will: try replacing the preamble with \hskip 0 pt plus 1 sp#\cr for example; the 1 sp stretches until all the padding occurs {\it before} the "1". Non-stretchy glue, such as \hskip 1 sp#\cr doesn't help, however. So, where {\it is} TeX finding the mysterious glue that it needs to pad out the "1" row in the first example ? Philip Taylor Royal Holloway and Bedford New College. ------------------------ Via: UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL; Thu, 7 Dec 89 8:45 GMT Via: UK.AC.UKC; Thu, 7 Dec 89 8:46 GMT Received: from harwell by kestrel.Ukc.AC.UK with UUCP id aa05371; 7 Dec 89 8:40 GMT Subject: Sccs keywords in LaTeX Cc: judy@uucp.harwell Date: Thu Dec 7 08:39:17 1989 From: judy@uucp.harwell (This was bounced on the first try, with the following message: - this second try is being sent to uktex@uk.ac.aston ) We are currently producing documentation in LaTeX for some of our software. In order to be able to recognize when a particular version of a manual was produced, I thought it would be easiest to plant the sccs modification date as part of the titlepage information. This in itself is trivial enough, but how do I set something up which allows me to run LaTeX on the documented whilst it is being edited ? Since the sccs keywords are all "%?%" I can't think of an easy way of handling this! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Judy Booth (judy%harwell.uucp@uk.ac.ukc) Computer Science & Systems Division, Harwell Laboratory, Oxon. ------------------------ Via: UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL; Thu, 7 Dec 89 14:36 GMT Via: UK.AC.UCL.EUCLID; Thu, 7 Dec 89 14:37 GMT From: Jack Levy (on GEC 4190 Rim-B at UCL) Reply-to: Jack Levy Date: Thu, 7 Dec 89 14:34 Subject: LaTeX style query Message-Id: <07 DEC 1989 14:35:52 CCAAJRL@UK.AC.UCL.EUCLID> Comments: I've been trying to send this to info-tex, but without succsess. Could you forward it from your end? ---- Start of forwarded message. From: Jack Levy (on GEC 4190 Rim-B at UCL) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 89 14:26 Subject: LaTeX style query Message-Id: <07 DEC 1989 14:35:52 CCAAJRL@UK.AC.UCL.EUCLID> Apologies for a naive query, which I'm sure has a simple answer. I'm tring to design a page layout in LaTeX with a widish \marginparwidth (about 2 in) and \textwidth around 4 in. The problem is that I would like page headers or footers the full width of the page, covering both the margin and the text, possibly including a full-width horizontal rule. I've tried using \leftskip and \rightskip, which works except that I get overfull hbox messages. I would also like to try full-width section headers at some point, but I guess it's a similar problem. Can anyone help? Jack Levy (UCL Computer Centre) - --- End of forwarded message. ------------------------ !! !! Files of interest !! [tex-archive]000aston.readme [tex-archive]000directory.list !! [tex-archive]000directory_dates.list [tex-archive]000directory.size !! 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