UKTeX V87 #10

			     TeX Introduction
			Re: Old English Characters
			    Rotating the print
			      Re: Greek font
			 Silvio Levy's CWEB system
			   DVI2LN3 device driver
				TeX on Pc's
			     Preloaded formats
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Editor

The DVITOVDU files have been updated and I hope that all the missing ones 
are now present. (73 files in total listed in 000index.list)

If anyone is using the Arbortext DVIPS then a new version of PSFORMAT.EXE 
which correctly prints the date and time for the LW command is now 
available. I have sent the corrected version to Ewart North so please 
contact him and not me.

I have been unable to send UKTeX digests to qmc.maths and ucl.mssl.a for 
the past two weeks. If you have any contacts at either site please can you 

	a) send a message to them to see if the problem is global or local 
	   to Aston 
and 
	b) let me know the result.

I have updated 000aston.readme to reflect the latest position and as a 
result the old 000fetch.list files are being removed. In all cases now the 
software is indexed in the relevant 000index.list.

Peter

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Subject:  Tex introduction
From:     R.J.HARE @ uk.ac.edinburgh
Date:     26 Oct 87  14:16:16 gmt
To:       uktex
Via:      UK.AC.EDINBURGH.EMAS-C  ; (to uk.ac.edinburgh.emas-a) 26 Oct 87  14:17:42 gmt
Msg ID:   <26 Oct 87  14:16:16 gmt  340187@EMAS-C>

I have a (novice) user who has expressed an interest in TeX and who claims to
have used it for one or two *very* simple jobs at his home university in North
America. He has expressed an interest in learning a little more about
TeX/LaTeX/etc. Does anyone know of any simple, short, (free?)
document/paper/magazine article/w.h.y. which describes the simple use of TeX?
He doesn't feel inclined (and I can't blame him) to lash out 16 1/2
spondulicks for Knuth's book.

Many Thanks.
Roger Hare.

PS Come to think of it, I would find it useful too, being a 'just-started'
TeXxie. RH.

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Date: 26 Oct 87  14:31:12 gmt
From: G.Toal @ uk.ac.edinburgh
Subject: Re: Old English characters
To:     Roger_Gawley  <CL12 @ UK.AC.DURHAM.MTS>, info-tex@uk.ac.aston.mail
Message-ID: <26 Oct 87  14:31:12 gmt  050972@EMAS-A>
In-reply-to: Your message <26 Oct 87  09:13:28 gmt  050674@EMAS-A>

Re Old English text: is this by any chance for phonetic transcription?
If so, I'm interested, as I am working on text-to-speech and need to
print funny symbols too.  Does anyone know if there is an ISO/ECMA alphabet
for the International Phonetic Alphabet?  I've not been able to find
one so far. (By IPA I means reversed-'e', thorn for 'th' etc., not the
radio style ALPHA BRAVE CHARLIE DELTA etc.)
Graham.


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Date:    26-Oct-1987 16:01 BST
Subject: Rotating printing
From:    Peter Abbott <ABBOTTP@uk.ac.aston> 
Dept:    Computing Service     
Tel No:  021 359 5492 -direct


I would like to be able to define a block of text using parbox or picture 
or similar in LaTeX. 

The equipment is an Apple Laserwriter (postscript) using DVIPS from
Arbortext which supports special. 


I want to rotate the block through 90 or even 180 degrees. This would allow 
me to print landscape and portrait on the same page and to produce notices 
which when folded will stand up but display the text the correct way up.

(I know that I can feed the sheet through the laser printer twice but this 
causes untold problems including black smudges).

Peter

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Received: from sot-cm by maori.soton.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Oct 87 15:59:32 GMT
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 87 15:35:37 GMT
From: Sebastian Rahtz <spqr@uk.ac.soton.cm>
To: ABBOTTP@UK.AC.ASTON
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 87 15:35:27 GMT
Subject: Re: your mail
In-Reply-To: Message from "ABBOTTP@ASTON.AC.UK" of Oct 26, 87 at 2:05 pm
X-Mailer: Elm [version 1.5]

 the Greek & Hebrew font question
    - use PostScript instead..
    - Silvio Levy has done a Metafont-designed classical Greek
      (LEVY@PRINCETON.EDU, i think). see Proceedings of TUG meeting 1987

--
Sebastian Rahtz       Computer Science    University  SOUTHAMPTON S09 5NH UK
spqr@uk.ac.soton.cm  // ...!ukc!sot-cm!spqr // cmi011@uk.ac.soton.ibm
(telephone (0703) 559122 ext 2435)


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From: Luke Whitaker <luke@uk.ac.city.cs>
Date:  Tue, 27 Oct 87 17:39:20 GMT 
Message-Id: <8710271739.AA17930@uk.ac.city.cs>
To: abbottp@uk.ac.aston.mail

Subject: TeX 

I am in the process of setting up TeX/LaTeX plus various utilities on a
Gould running BSD 4.3 plus some Sun 3's running BSD 4.2.

I have a few questions :

I have just set up TeXtyl from the aston distribution --- Is it possible to
get *gf versions of the *vec*pk font files in the distribution?

I have two dvi previewers for the Sun's, but they both use *pxl fonts. Have
you ever heard of a sun previewer that uses *gf fonts.

How do I get the UK TeX UG mailing --- Is there a mailing list and if so how
do I get on it?

+++Editor You have been added to the mailing list+++

Thanks very much,

	Luke Whitaker, Dept of Computer Science, City University
	(aka l.whitaker@uk.ac.city.cs)

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 87 18:01:29 GMT
From: Sebastian Rahtz <spqr@uk.ac.soton.cm>
To: abbottp@uk.ac.aston.mail
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 87 18:01:22 GMT
Subject: CWEB
X-Mailer: Elm [version 1.5]

If anyone out there in uktex land wants Silvio Levy's CWEB system (WEB
for C, producing TeX, as opposed to the British CWEB which did troff
from C), he has sent it to me, and I assume is happy to have it
redistributed. Obviously, its all Unix stuff, and is a set of shar
archives (VMS hackers would have to convert it). Let me know. As it is
on our IBM mainframe at present, I can remail it quite easily
-------

Sebastian Rahtz       Computer Science    University  SOUTHAMPTON S09 5NH UK
spqr@uk.ac.soton.cm  // ...!ukc!sot-cm!spqr // cmi011@uk.ac.soton.ibm
(telephone (0703) 559122 ext 2435)


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Date:		28-OCT-1987 09:07:00 GMT
From:		QPFA1@UK.AC.SUSSEX.VAX2
To:		INFO-TEX@UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL


Like most people with TeX, and an LN03, and VAX/VMS, I am using
Flavio Rose's DVI2LN3 device driver. The version I have was picked
up from an old (around 1985) DECUS VAXSIG tape. I was just about to
start making some mods to the program when it occurred to me that I
may not have the latest version. So, does anyone know if there is a
later version, and if so how can I get hold of it? Or am I starting
from the wrong place - is there another and better DVI-to-LN03
program available?
                                             Graham King,
                                                Brighton Poly.


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Date:		28-OCT-1987 11:32:37 GMT -01:00
From:		THOWARD@UK.AC.MAN.CS.CGU
To:		INFO-TEX@UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL
Subject:	TeX for PCs
Sender:		JANET"thoward@uk.ac.man.cs.cgu" <thoward@uk.ac.man.cs.cgu>
Reply-to:	thoward@uk.ac.man.cs.cgu
X-name:		Toby Howard
X-address:	Computer Graphics Unit, University of Manchester.

I'm looking for info about TeX on PCs, specifically Tandon AT.
Is there anything in the public domain? Thanks for any help.
Toby


Toby Howard 
Computer Graphics Unit, Department of Computer Science,
Manchester University, Oxford Road, Manchester, England, M13 9PL. 
Phone: +44 61 273 7121 x5429/5406
Janet: thoward@uk.ac.man.cs.cgu  
ARPA:  thoward%cgu.cs.man.ac.uk@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk                    

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Date:		30-OCT-1987 18:16:33 GMT
From:		CCZDAO@UK.AC.NOTT.VAXA
To:		info-tex@UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL
Subject:	VMS TeX question
Sender:	       	JANET"cczdao@uk.ac.nott.vaxa" (David Osborne)
		<cczdao@uk.ac.nott.vaxa>
Organization:	Systems Group, Cripps Computing Centre, Univ of Nottingham, UK
X-Mailer:	VAX/VMS Janet_Mailshr V2.8(b)

Can any VMS TeX users offer an explanation why, when I run our TeX
it announces "(no format preloaded)", yet, in the .LIS file
for the run, it correctly identifies the preloaded PLAIN format ?

Could it be a missing or out-of-date file somewhere ?

Dave

+++editor My PC version works the same way. I assume that when TeX is 
started no format is preloaded and the &lplain once read generates the 
message in the .LIS file+++
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