UKTeX V88 #16        Friday  3 June 1988

                          Cyrillic font .MF files
                        mail server - site report.
                                FAST LASER
                                 Web 2 C.
           separate chapter bibliographies with LaTeX and BibTeX
                              Male and female
                             Files from Aston
                          LSE template for BibTeX
                                TeX copying
                                FTP problem
                         web2c.shar unget-at-able
                           LSE module for LaTeX
                               Epson driver
                Latest tapes in the UK information request
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Editor Peter Abbott

I think that a number of your systems were closed down for the Bank 
Holiday. Issue 15 had the largest number of rejected messages.

I have just received a message from Barbara Beeton and part of it is 
reproduced here.

Subject:  An early-warning system for TeX system bugs, etc.

greetings.  i've taken it upon myself to try to build a distribution list
of tex implementors and others working in the tex front lines.  i include
here anyone who is in charge of maintaining a "master" version of tex or
metafont that is intended for further distribution, primary maintainers of
tex bulletin boards or information distribution centers, and the like.
for the first real message, i intend to send out the details of recent
tex bugs (version 2.7 was posted by don knuth on nov 18).  ....

....    i also intend to limit the content of mailings to this list to
information absolutely relevant to maintaining a tex system distribution
at a current level.  suggestions are indeed welcome.
....
                                                -- bb

I have created a new subgroup texstatus and it now contains the following 
files.

Directory [PUBLIC.TEXSTATUS]

MESSAGE_000.25_NOV_1987
MESSAGE_001.25_NOV_1987
MESSAGE_002.17_DEC_1987
MESSAGE_003.24_DEC_1987
MESSAGE_004.29_MAY_1988
MESSAGE_005.30_MAY_1988


Thanks to Maria (pcl.mole) DosTeX is now available.


Directory [PUBLIC.PC.DOSTEX]

111READ.ME        240.BOO           263.BOO           288.BOO          
315A.BOO          315B.BOO          346.BOO           379.BOO          
AMSTEX.BOO        BIGEXE.BOO        DVIEPS.BOO        INPUTS1.BOO      
INPUTS2.BOO       INSTALL.BOO       LATEX.BOO         PLAIN.BOO        
POOLFILE.BOO      



Latest TeXhax in the Archive is #52
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          31 May 88 9:55 BST
Date:     Tue, 31 May 88 9:49:30 BST
From:     R Fairbairns <rf@uk.ac.cam.cl>
To:       info-tex@uk.ac.aston
Subject:  Cyrillic font .MF files
Message-ID:  <8805310955.aa00478@gnnt.Cl.Cam.AC.UK>

I have a clear recollection of having seen Cyrillic .MF files in the archive.
Am I dreaming? Looking at my copy of the directory listing this morning I
couldn't find them. Can anybody help? (They are part of the AMSFONTS set, 
and there are lots of .GF and other sorts of files. How does one tell what
printer they were generated for?)

Robin Fairbairns        rf@uk.ac.cam.cl
Laser Scan Laboratories
Science Park
Milton Rd
Cambridge CB4 4FY
(0223 315414, until BT changes it)

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Cc: gtoal@uucp.acorn
Subject: mail server - site report.
Date: Tue,31 May 1988.10:33:58
From: GToal@uucp.acorn

                  Tex-server@uk.ac.ed - SITE REPORT

Hello Peter,
   you hadn't heard anything about the experimental mail-server at Edinburgh?
Great! (That means it's working well...)

   To date, we have had about 25 clients: mostly using it lightly; one or two
using it quite heavily.  A couple use it to pick up texhax regularly.

   There have only been too technical problems - Max Calvanni from Italy
chose to call through at a time when the Janet->Earn mailer was a bit ill;
one other caller had problems because his machine was not configured to give
the correct Janet domain address for the return mail.  Otherwise, the service
has been running very smoothly.

   No-one has attempted to fetch 'awkward' files (as far as I'm aware) so no
problems there.

   The usage started off quite high and I was seriously considering having to
withdraw the server as the first week strained my budget quite heavily - but
since the initial rush, requests have settled down and I think I can keep it
running if there are no excessive requests made.  (If anyone wants anything
REALLY big like web2c, mail me (gtoal@uk.ac.ed) first!!!)

   To remind anyone who missed the original posting, you access files from
aston.spock by sending mail to tex-server@uk.ac.ed -- no subject line if
you want the latest ReadMe file, otherwise set the Subject: line to the
name of the file you want to fetch.

Graham.

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Date:           31-MAY-1988 11:41:50 GMT
From:           CENSWM@UK.AC.HW.VAXA
To:             abbottp@UK.AC.ASTON.CLUST
Subject:        FAST LASER

Peter,

        Having got Tex working well on our LN03, we would now like a
faster laser printer, can anyone out there suggest a Laser Printer
capable of about 40ppm and having a TEX driver available. It must
have a serial connection so it can be put on our VAXCluster.

Thanks

Stuart.

+++Editor - DEC market the LPS40 printserver engine which may satisfy your 
needs (always assuming you have sufficent money).+++

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Cc: gtoal@uucp.acorn
Subject: Web 2 C.
Date: Tue,31 May 1988.10:48:43
From: GToal@uucp.acorn

Hello again Netlanders,

   I thought I would jot down some quick notes on the web2c shar file
recently released.

1) Web2c is VERY heavily Unix dependent.  If you are thinking about using
   it for a different operating system, you'll still need a Unix to do
   the initial building.

2a) It is a supplement to the distributed Unix tape from Pierre MacKay.
   (Univ. of Washington) -- all the change-files assume the versions of
   the sources on that tape.  Usually they can be edited just to reverse
   the version-number string, but not always.  I had to bring TeX2.0 up to
   TeX2.9 from the diff file on the aston archive.  It wasn't easy, as it
   wasn't a real diff file! (Blank lines, indentation lost...)

2b) (Because it is a supplement, none of the sources are in the shar file.)

3) Once these minimal changes were made, it ported very smoothly.
   However, it is not a general Pascal to C converter - unlike another I
   have seen - it uses change files heavily and has some hand-written bits
   for every program it knows about. (Including mf, and assorted texware
   and mfware)

4) Highly recommended for Unix sites.  I'd like to say it works on any
   ansi-c compiler, but I haven't been able to test it on the Acorn system
   because I'm a bit short on disc space.  (Isn't 20Mb tiny nowadays!)
   I'll let you know when I have done - it'll be an interesting comparison
   between tex-in-c, commontex & pascal-tex when running on the same machine.

Graham.

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Date:     Mon, 30 May 88 15:44:52 GMT
From: Sebastian Rahtz <spqr@uk.ac.soton.cm>
To: ABBOTTP@uk.ac.aston
Subject:  separate chapter bibliographies with LaTeX and BibTeX

Harvey Richardson  wants to have a set of chapters each with their own
BibTeX'ed reference list (as opposed to a global bibliography). I asked
in TeXhax about this last year, and no-one suggested a better solution
than what I have in fact twice done, which is to create a separate
bibliography for each chapter, and \input it at the appropriate place,
with the normal LaTeX resolution of references throughout the book. I do
it in practice by having a small 'harness' which asks for a chapter name,
runs it through with correct setup, and runs BibTeX to create a .bbl
file. So if I have a chapter in my book called 'deguio' (as I do), I have
a deguio.tex and generate a deguio.bbl. I have a global book file which
does a 
   \input deguio \input deguio.bbl
and all works out OK after the usual multiple LaTeX runs.

The only thing that makes this bearable is using the Unix 'make' utility
to keep track of when I change chapters or the booklist. You need to keep
all the references in one file, as you need unique keys throughout the book
for the cross-referencing.

Compared to other problems of creating a book, it isn't that much trouble!

sebastian rahtz

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Date:            1-JUN-1988 11:21:20 GMT
From:           RBAILEY@UK.AC.AFRC.RESB
To:             INFO-TEX@UK.AC.ASTON
Subject:        Male and female

The latest bulletin contains a request for a font containing the male and 
female symbols. I think I have seen some macros in TUGBOAT which provide 
them. I had a similar problem when I wanted to produce the symbol which
computer screens use for the "form feed" character. I managed to create it
from \circ and + by careful juggling of boxes and sizes. I could send the
code if anyone wants, but unfortunately not at once: I do not have that
file with me today, and shall be away from this network until July.

Rosemary Bailey
Rothamsted Experimental Station

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Date:            1-JUN-1988 19:15:18 GMT
From:           RM001A@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.CDVC
To:             ABBOTTP@UK.AC.ASTON

Peter,
        I received the following message from one of our users concerning
one of the files we obtained from you. Any comments?

                        Christopher P Andrasic


From:   T::BHK          "Brian HAMILTON KELLY" 20-MAY-1988 18:19
To:     SYSTEM,BHK         
Subj:   Files from Aston

Christopher,
        After I number of attempts to ``decompress' the file
[PUBLIC.TAR]MAKEINDEX.TAR_Z from the Aston tapes, I've come to the
conclusion that whomsoever created it did so through some connection
which strips off bit 8, since there isn't one of these in the whole
file; in particular, the first two bytes should be 037 235 (octal) which
equates to 1F 9D in hex, but are actually 1F 1D.
        Perhaps you should tell Aston and ask them to get a proper version!
                                Brian

+++Editor - Can anyone oblige please+++
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Date:            1-JUN-1988 19:14:24 GMT
From:           RM001A@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.CDVC
To:             INFO-TEX@UK.AC.ASTON

Niel Kempson has written an LSE template to assist with the creation of
BibTeX bibliography databases. LSE stands for Language Sensitive Editor
and is a DEC layered product available on VAX/VMS machines. Hence you
need LSE to use this software, which consists of three files:

        AAAREADME.TXT   - Tells you how to install it.
        BIBTEX.LSE      - the BibTeX language definition for LSE
        BIBTEX.HLP      - the online help file for the BibTeX language


                                Christopher P Andrasic

+++Editor - The files are in [public.vms.lse] +++
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Date:            2-JUN-1988 10:39:09 GMT
From:           CENSWM@UK.AC.HW.VAXA
To:             abbottp@UK.AC.ASTON.CLUST
Subject:        TeX copying

Peter,

        I have had a request from someone at Ferrantis here in Edinburgh
for a copy of TeX for VAX/VMS.

        I am not sure of the licensing rules for TeX is it Public Domain
or only available free for Academic Institutions?.

        As he is unable to use Janet is there another distibution facility
for your news-letters. I think it would be best if they were to get their
TEX copy from you rather than me.

Stuart.

+++Editor - The contents of the archive are public domain and available to 
anyone. If necessary I can create a tape of Aston's working version 
excluding the parts purchased. I can also supply a backup save set of the 
archive (2 reels at 6250bpi). Please ask them to send one or two tapes (or 
three if they want both) with return postage and labels to me. The digest 
can be sent via PSS if they have a suitable address (even reverse charging 
so that they pay for the material is supported). At present paper copies 
ARE NOT DISTRIBUTED. +++

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Date:     Tue, 31 May 88 15:43:14 BST
From:     Ian Moor <iwm@uk.ac.ic.doc>
To:       abbottp@uk.ac.aston
Subject:  FTP problem
Message-ID:  <8805311543.aa08094@ivax.doc.ic.ac.uk>

I am trying to fetch [PUBLIC.AMSFONTS.PXL300]EURM10.300PK from aston.spock,
the transfer is rejected with : record format incompatible with transfer code.
I am using fcp from a Unix machine and have had no problems with other files
in that directory.

      Ian W. Moor

+++Editor - Please can you try the mail route detailed above. Some files 
seem to cause problems for UNIX systems. Alternatively if you have the 
option binary please try that. Please let me know if either or both work. 
Thanks +++

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From: Nick North <ndn@uk.co.npl.seg>
Date: Fri, 20 May 88 14:59:52 BST
Message-Id: <9102.8805201359@guava.seg.npl.co.uk>
To: ABBOTTP@uk.ac.aston
Subject: web2c.shar unget-at-able

I have tried to retrieve the file web2c.shar using FTP and get the
following reply:

> The transfer of file [public.texvms.tex.web]WEB2C.SHAR
> from host uk.ac.aston.spock over janet failed.
> The reason given by the remote host was:
> 
> 
> Invalid value in command:  
invalid attribute - filename "[public.texvms.tex.web]WEB2C.SHAR".
> File open failure reason - directory not found.
> VAX/VMS FTP (80) Version 4.3a.

I have tried several times and failed, although I succeeded in getting
[public]000directory.list which advertised the file's existence. What am I doing
wrong?

Nick North
National Physical Laboratory.

+++Editor - I have checked all the directories and files and the 
protections are OK. I have moved the file to another system here. Please 
let me know what system you are using. Also has anyone else had problems. 

Here is my attempt using TRANSFER (no options) Note using two different 
versions of the FTP software.

File transfer 20728 completed 
Status %FTPB80-S-NORMAL, completed successfully
Information :
VAX/VMS FTP (80) Version 4.2-4
VAX/VMS FTP (80) Version 4.3a.
Remote sitename ASTON.SPOCK
Local filename DUA1:[ACS.ABBOTTP]WEB2C.TEST;
Remote filename [public.texvms.tex.web]web2c.shar

+++

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Date:           18-MAY-1988 09:15:44 GMT
From:           PHY5RI@UK.AC.LEEDS.UCS.VMS1
To:             ABBOTTP@UK.AC.ASTON
Subject:        LSE module for LaTeX


Dear Peter,
        In a recent issue of UKTEX I read of the TPU source for a LaTeX
LSE editor module. It was part of a collection on the SPAN network, maintained
by Max Calvani at ASTRPD.INFNET. I looked in Aston's 000directory.list and
could not find it mentioned anywhere, so I contacted Max and asked for a
copy. Because of its size he suggested I tried you first, as he says he
supplied a copy of this, amongst other stuff. If so, could you tell me where
it is, or could you send a copy? 

        On another note, many thanks for the great service of the Aston
TeX collection---I have found many useful LaTeX style files and device drivers
and it has introduced me to Metafont.

                Cheers,
                        Richard Noble

+++EDitor - My apologies but I do not yet have the file in the archive. I 
have the files at Aston but am checking with Barbara Beeton that they are 
Public Domain. TugBoat charge for the LSE tape and manual. +++
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From: Luke Whitaker <luke@uk.ac.city.cs>
Date:  Thu, 2 Jun 88 12:42:08 +0100 
Message-Id: <8806021142.AA03861@uk.ac.city.cs>
To: info-tex@uk.ac.aston
Subject: Epson driver

Is there an Epson driver that runs under Unix? I've looked in 000directory.list
at aston but couldn't see anything obvious. Alternativly is there a 
commercial one --- if so where from?

Luke Whitaker, City University.

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Date:            2-JUN-1988 17:37:42 GMT
From:           SJK1@UK.AC.YORK.VAXA
To:             ABBOTTP@UK.AC.ASTON



I have a Washington address from where to order a full release of TeX, is
this the only place to get the latest release from or is there a UK address? 

We currently are using Common TeX, Version 2.0 on SUN 3/50's. 

As TeX is fast becoming the most popular text formatter within the
department any information would be greatly appreciated. 

Cheers

Simon Klyne
Department of Electronics
University of York 
Y01 5DD

SJK1@UK.AC.YORK

+++Editor - I am prepared to update a file with details of the tapes in the 
UK if owners send me the details. I suggest the following information is 
needed.  Date tape received, System (e.g VAX/VMS UNIX SUN etc),address for 
copies, media.  The file will include the following header.

        ----------------------------------------------
You may obtain copies from the addresses below. you MUST send the media 
requested with a label on the media giving your address, a return label AND 
sufficent postage for return. Ideally the packing should be reusable (such 
as a JIFFY bag). It would be helpful if you sent a message (email) before 
sending the tape.
        ----------------------------------------------


+++

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