UKTeX V88 #41 Friday 9 December 1988
PostScript TFMs
PostScript support
UKTeX V88 #40
Re: PostScript Metrics
DVI to Postscript (Pascal version)
Mode_def's -- where are they?
Possible TeX support by Rutherford
Author names in BibTeX
Re: UKTeX V88 #40
email and credit card numbers (TUG renewals etc.)
LaTeX for the Atari ST
New SB(08)TEX.ARC file in archive
Editor Peter Abbott
I have discovered a 'bug' in the new mail distribution software used with
#38 onwards. My apologies to those users who have 'missed' issues but the
'bug' has now been cured.
Latest TeXhax in the Archive is #106
Latest TeXmag in the Archive is V2N5
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From: Don Hosek <DHOSEK@EARN.YMIR>
Subject: PostScript TFMs
To: Abbottp@UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL
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From TeXhax over the summer, I got the impression that Elwell's PostScript TFMs
are the definitive versions to use. This was an opinion voiced rather strongly
by Pierre Mackay. I believe Stephan Bechtolsheim (of dvi2ps fame) also supports
the use of Elwell's metrics
-dh
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Date: 02 Dec 88 22:42:46 gmt
From: G.Toal @ uk.ac.edinburgh
Subject: PostScript support
To: info-tex@uk.ac.aston.mail
Message-ID: <02 Dec 88 22:42:46 gmt 050578@EMAS-A>
Thanks to Sebastian for pointing out the Adobe TFM problem - just
in the nick of time as I was about to fetch lots of them...
My question: which of the many dvi to postscript translators copes with:
1) Mixed postscript fonts and cmr bitmap fonts [needed for maths]
2) Including graphics images easily
3) Modifying text generated into boxes - e.g. by greying the background,
rotating the box, reversing out or whatever?
4) Includes a 'psplain' alternative to 'plain' base file which will
handle the postscript fonts in a more natural way?
Has anyone already looked at all the drivers to compare these or
any other points you can think of? [or even produced the 'tick-chart'
beloved of computer magazine reviews?]
Graham.
(A man with more questions than answers at the moment... Life can
be like that sometimes.)
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From: Clark Adrian <alien@uk.ac.essex.ese>
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 88 17:50:41 GMT
To: ABBOTTP@uk.ac.ASTON
In-Reply-To: ABBOTTP@ASTON's message of 2-DEC-1988 17:08:46 GMT <0000B693_0006391C.0091CBDDD50DAFA0$17_1@UK.AC.ASTON>
Subject: UKTeX V88 #40
From: David Lloyd <QQ47@UK.AC.LIVERPOOL.IBM>
Subject: Problem with double indices
To: Peter Abbott <ABBOTTP@ASTON>
I found something odd when I tried to use an expression like
$$x^{i^{2}}$$
A vertical bar grows out of the top of the 2. Could this be a problem with
the font?
No. I just tried this out using VMS TeX 2.94 and Unix TeX 2.92 and
the output is fine with both, using standard CM fonts at 10pt and
12pt.
Adrian F. Clark
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From: Clark Adrian <alien@uk.ac.essex.ese>
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 88 17:57:38 GMT
To: ABBOTTP@uk.ac.ASTON
In-Reply-To: ABBOTTP@ASTON's message of 2-DEC-1988 17:08:46 GMT <0000B693_0006391C.0091CBDDD50DAFA0$17_1@UK.AC.ASTON>
Subject: Re: PostScript Metrics
I wasn't surprised that Sebastian obtained different results from his
test page of `Moby Dick' when using TeX, troff, etc. Since TeX
doesn't calculate its line breaks until the entire page has been read
in, we might expect it to get different (and hopefully _better_)
results than the other programs.
Having said that, I'm a little concerned about the assorted PostScript
TFMs. I'm no PostScript guru, but let's settle on a standard set and
stick to it! With respect to the possible re-encoding problem, I'd
like to ask people whether we're TeX users or PostScript users. If
we're the former, we'd use the TeX collating sequence; if the latter,
we'd twiddle the plain (and lplain and amstex and HPtex and...)
formats.
Ur, I'm a TeX user.
Adrian F. Clark
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DATE: 02 Dec 88 17:15:08 GMT
FROM: d.c.lindsey @ uk.ac.aberdeen
TO: info-tex @ uk.ac.aston
MESSAGE-ID: <02.Dec.88_17-14-57_d.c.lindsey@uk.ac.aberdeen>
SUBJECT: DVI to Postscript (Pascal version)
Does anyone know of the existence/whereabouts of a WEB/Pascal version of
a dvi to Postscript filter? I ask this because the C compiler on our
mainframe (identity undisclosed) is the pits unlike its Pascal
compatriot.
Dave Lindsey
Janet address: d.c.lindsey@uk.ac.aberdeen
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Date: 3-DEC-1988 15:43:10 GMT
From: STEPHEN@UK.AC.OXFORD.VAX
To: INFO-TEX@UK.AC.ASTON
Dear TeXies,
I'm trying to make use of the \lr switch described in The TeXBook
(p.257) using the following code:
\newdimen\fullhsize
\fullhsize=6.5in \hsize=3.2in
\def\fullline{\hbox to \fullhsize}
\def\makeheadline
{\vbox to 0pt{\vskip-22.5pt
\fullline{\vbox to8.5pt{}\the\headline}\vss}
\nointerlineskip}
\def\makefootline
{\baselineskip=24pt
\fullline{\the\footline}}
\let\lr=L \newbox\leftcolumn
\output={\if L\lr
\global\setbox\leftcolumn=\columnbox \global\let\lr=R
\else \doubleformat \global\let\lr=L\fi
\ifnum\outputpenalty>-20000 \else\dosupereject\fi}
\def\doubleformat{\shipout\vbox{\makeheadline
\fullline{\box\leftcolumn\hfil\columnbox}
\makefootline}
\advancepageno}
\def\columnbox{\leftline{\pagebody}}
\supereject
\if R\lr \null\vfill\eject\fi
It runs okay *but* in my output a capital L appears at the start of the
text. (I've copied the code down onto a Mac and used TeXtures and had
the same result.) What's going wrong?
stephen miller
oxford university computing service
stephen@uk.ac.oxford.vax (janet)
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Date: 03 Dec 88 23:40:10 gmt
From: G.Toal @ uk.ac.edinburgh
Subject: Mode_def's -- where are they?
To: info-tex@uk.ac.aston.mail
cc: texhax%score.stanford.edu@uk.ac.ukc
Message-ID: <03 Dec 88 23:40:10 gmt 050612@EMAS-A>
I'm currently looking for a mode_def for an AST Turbolaser, which --
from the output -- I suspect is a write-white engine. The salesman
suggested it was a diabolo engine !??? [I didn't know they made lasers?]
Anyway, while searching the UK Aston archive for ANY mode defs, I realised
that there doesn't appear to be a single reference collection. If there
is, could someone tell me (and the net) where to look? If there isn't,
I'll take on the job of collecting them by mail and passing on the unique
ones to Peter Abbott at Aston. US readers could slave a copy from there
once done. [Peter, could you create a [PUBLIC.MFFILES.MODEDEFS] please?]
Graham.
(gtoal@uk.ac.ed -- see your mail guru for a routing, but try REPLY first)
+++Editor - OK created the empty subdirectory +++
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Date: 5-DEC-1988 10:51:14 GMT
From: PHYHJR@UK.AC.HW.VAXA
To: uktex@UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL
Subject: Possible TeX support by Rutherford
The following article may be of interest. It appeared in the Oct-Dec issue
of the Engineering Computing Newsletter distributed by the Rutherford
Appleton Labaratory.
`TEX SUPPORT
At present, the "standard" text processing software supplied with EASE-
supported workstations is based on AT & T's Doucumenter's Workbench (troff
etc.) There are, of course other systems available. One of these is TEX
with the associated LATEX. As well as the consideration of WYSIWYG document
systems (see July-Sept issue of the newsletter) there is a desire to see
whether there are enough people in the Community requiring TEX to add this
to the list of supported software. I would be grateful if those who would
like to see this happen contact me (preferably by email - ret@uk.ac.rl.ib)
so that the size of the community can be estimated.
Eric Thomas (Informatics Department)'
Harvey Richardson
Physics Department, Heriot-Watt University.
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Subject: Author names in BibTeX
I have a problem with author names in BibTeX. Can anyone help me?
To get multiple authors in BibTeX, you say "Joe Bloggs and John Smith",
for example. The book "Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs"
by Abelson and Sussman claims to be written by
"Harold Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman with Julie Sussman"
which really confuses BibTeX. If I leave the "with" as is, BibTeX thinks
the book has two authors, the second one having "von" part "with", and
surname "Julie Sussman", and so the key becomes "[AwJS85]". If I replace
the "with" with an "and", BibTeX produces the key "[ASS85]", which is fine,
but the authors get quoted with two "and"'s in the bibliography (naturally),
which is still not what I want.
What I would like is to get the names of the authors in the bibliography to
come out as
Harold Abelson and Gerald~Jay Sussman, with Julie Sussman
(or something similar); I'm not particularly bothered about the key, as long
as it's not "[AwJS85]". How do I get BibTeX to act as if the "with" were an
"and", short of hand-editing the .bbl and .aux files?
Ta.
Jeremy Gibbons
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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 88 8:27:08 GMT
From: Sebastian Rahtz <spqr@uk.ac.soton.cm>
To: ABBOTTP@uk.ac.aston
Subject: Re: UKTeX V88 #40
>
> 1. Has anyone else had trouble with POOLFILE.BOO from the aston
> archives. Do you think that it is possible that my version of
> deboo could unpack all the boo files except this one ok?
I recently FTPed all of the DOSTEX stuff, deboo'ed it, unarced it, took
away the number I first thought of etc, and curiously enough it all ran
OK. So the poolfile isn't irredemiably damaged
>
> 3. Is there another archive where I could download these files via
> kermit or something like that ( the name Lancaster comes up in
> some documentation)
log in interactively to LANCS.VAX1 as Kermit, password Kermit, and
download a deboo source and recompile it yourself. There are C and
Pascal versions
>
> 2. Can you tell me how to get hold of the latest tex distribution
> suitable for running on a Sun-4 under SunOS 4.0 WITHOUT pascal ?
> I have Tex 2.1 running on a Sun-3, but my colleagues have not bought
> their Sun in time to be eligible for the free 4.0 pascal.
if you get a recent Unix TeX distribution (the one Peter Abbott will
make for you is recent enough), it assumes you will do a C compilation
anyway. You need a slightly MORE recent one if you need all the texware
and metafont ware with web2c changefiles, but no doubt the basics will
make you happy for now. As if anyone with a Sun 4 needs to be made
happier...
if you are happy with TeX 2.1, just get [.web2c]*.* from Aston, and
follow the READMEs
Sebastian Rahtz, Computer Science, Southampton
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To: info-tex@uk.ac.aston
Subject: email and credit card numbers (TUG renewals etc.)
In #40 Dave Osbourne was enthusing about paying for TUG things by quoting his
credit card number in an email message.
Before anyone else does this I would urge them to consider how porous the
email system is. How many machines, about which you know nothing at all,
will your message go through? There was something in a recent comp.risks
digest complaining about ACM using a tear-out postcard for credit card
ordering, this is much the same.
I am glad that TUG will accept credit card payment, I have used this myself,
but only by letter.
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Subject: LaTeX for the Atari ST
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 88 10:13:49 GMT
From: dbrennan@uk.co.bt.axion
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I was wondering if a version of LaTeX exists for the Atari ST and if so
how I can get hold of it. I need to be able to preview on the Atari
mono screen and I'd like to be able to print rough copies on an Epson
compatible 9 pin printer.
Any information gratefully received....
Regards,
Dave Brennan.
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Date: 5-DEC-1988 17:53:43 GMT
From: PAT@UK.AC.LEEDS.ICF.LEVA
To: INFO-TEX@UK.AC.ASTON
24/11/88
Dear Peter Abbott,
Do know of, or have, a means of getting Latex to write the word "Draft" across
a page, large enough to cover the whole page, but in a lighter shade of print
so as not to obscure the text that is on the page. As a means of ensuring that
if someone copies the resulting paper document they can not erase, or obscure
the word "draft".
We can possibly edit a change to psprint to do this, but thought we should
contact you first to see if there was an offering. If not we will contact
the writer of psprint about any change.
- -- Pat
Pat@uk.ac.leeds.leva
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Date: 8-DEC-1988 17:58:22 GMT
From: CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA
To: Info-TeX@UK.AC.ASTON
Subject: New SB(08)TEX.ARC file in archive
Sender: JANET"CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA" <CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA>
Message-Id: <224018B2_001A22E4.0091D09BC186F280$55_3@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA>
Originally-to: $UK-TEX
Originally-from:CHAA006 "Philip Taylor (RHBNC) <P.Taylor@Uk.Ac.Rhbnc.Vaxb>"
Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.2 (27-Oct-1988)
The original SBTEX.ARC file (Wayne Sullivan's MS/DOS implementation of TeX, in
Turbo Pascal V4) could not be successfully un/de-archived at some sites. Wayne
very kindly sent me a further copy in SUDECO format, which I re-built at RHBNC.
The resulting file (SB08TEX.ARC) can be successfully un/de-archived using
PKXARC FAST! Archive Extract Utility Version 3.5 04-27-87
Copyright (c) 1986,1987 PKWARE Inc. All Rights Reserved. PKXARC/h for help
but
ARC - Archive utility, Version 5.20, created on 10/24/86 at 14:56:41
(C) COPYRIGHT 1985,86 by System Enhancement Associates; ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
still reports
>>>I don't know how to handle file HYPHEN.TEX in archive SB08TEX.ARC
>>>I think you need a newer version of ARC.
The file has subsequently been transferred from my PC-V to a VAX/VMS system
using Kermit ("SET FILE TYPE BINARY"), and thence transferred to the
archive using blue-book FTP ("TRANSFER /CODE=FAST"). Similar incantations,
applied in the reverse direction, should result in a usable SB08TEX.ARC
file. The present location is [PUBLIC.ARC]SB08TEX.ARC, and it is TeX V2.93.
** Phil.
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