UKTeX V89 #21       Friday 9 June 1989

                  Re: The current UK-TeX (miscellaneous)
                     PD version of TeX for MSDOS/PCDOS
                                   SBTeX
                         Modula-2 for VMS DVITOVDU
                             Re: FTPing OzTeX
                            Re: tracing \input
                         Re: Previewing DVI files
                   Re: How to change the paper "size" ?
                                information
                               sticky labels
                            Modula-2 compilers
                       re. Modula-2 and VMS TeX bits
                         dvi2ps + gf + Postscript
                some replies to questions in UKTeX V89 #20
                         \csname...\endcsname,etc
                      Numerals in control word names
                  Where is the OzTeX config file on aston
                              TeX User Group
                                information
                       Getting AFM Files from laser?
                                 Z macros
                              TeX User Group
                            Apology to Malcolm!
                             Lumberjacks, etc.
                               PC Previewer
                             Metafont on Sun 4
              Problem hhcp'ing binary files from tex-archive
                                 GUTenberg
               Help requested with parallel language setting
              RE: Maintaining LARGE files in the TeX archive
                            TeX archive on SPAN

Editor Peter Abbott

This issue is being despatched due to the accumulated volume of material
and a change of plans on my part. The next issue will appear as usual next
Friday June 16 1989.

Aston are considering a Postscript printer for central use and I would like 
information and opinions please. Something of at least 15+ pages a minute, 
with a sheet feeder of reasonable size (say not less than 1000 sheets) and 
it must be heavy duty. No doubt cost will rule a lot out but the Agfa PS400 
seems a good one to start with.

At last the problem associated with the mail service has been located. 
Unfortunately the link between aston.tex and the node connecting us to the 
outside world was found to be faulty. Many messages have simply `been lost 
without trace' and FTP access was erratic and unpredictable. It all appears 
to be back to normal.

We hope that the OZTeX section is now complete and transferable correctly.

I apologise to everyone who has had problems getting material from the 
archive over the past few weeks but hopefully we can look forward to a 
distinct improvement.

When using the mail service for texserver please send to 

        texserver@uk.ac.aston.tex

sending to

        texserver@uk.ac.aston

will also work but this introduces an extra delay.

I have been trying to include output from programmes running on a MAC and 
there appears to be almost as many file formats as programmes. It seems the 
only common denominator is the file produced by a clover-leaf f or k 
command when using print (i.e capturing the output as sent to the 
Postscript printer). Has anyone developed facilities for manipulating these 
files with ordinary text editors (remembering that some have limited line 
lengths, that cr is required as well as lf), movable between systems with 
kermit or similar so that they can be included with \special. I have tried 
PSfig but it generates specials in a form incompatible with Andrew 
Trevorrows implementation of PSprint.

Latest TeXhax in the Archive is #47
Latest TeXmag in the Archive is V3N2

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Date:           Fri, 26 MAY 89 16:40:34 BST
From:           CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXB
Subject:        Re: The current UK-TeX (miscellaneous)
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Reply-to:       Philip Taylor (RHBNC) <P.Taylor@Uk.Ac.Rhbnc.Vaxb>
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Adrian Clark <Alien@Uk.Ac.Essex.Ese> asked:

>>> I am a dedicated user of SliTeX for preparing overheads.  When
>>> preparing them, however, it would often be useful to get several of
>>> them on a page at reduced size, only producing full-size output for
>>> the final version.  Has anyone produced a style file which does
>>> something like this?

If you have access to it, Adrian, consider DVILASER/PS; it will allow you
to place little mini-pages all over a real page, just by specifying the
magnification (really: reduction) and the x-y co-ordinates of the origin
of each of a cycle of pages.


Sebastian Rahtz <Spqr@Uk.Ac.Soton.Ecs>, referring to Don Hosek's query
re tracing \input statements, said:

>>> of course a dirty solution would be to redefine \input so that it
>>> wrote a message on an external file each time it was called; then
>>> you'd have to run TeX to get the information, but it would work.

but why on earth is this a "dirty solution" ?  Surely it is the obvious
and most elegant solution ? [\let \Input = \input \def \input {... \Input}]


Sebastian also refers to "lfonts.truesizes", and generating miscellaneous
LaTeX fonts at 1270dpi.  At yesterday's Phototypesetter User Group meeting,
Malcolm Clark asked for just such fonts; could you lodge a copy with 
Martin Powell <Martin@Uk.Ac.Ulcc.Typeset>, please Sebastian ?


Andy Trevorrow <ATREVORROW@au.oz.ua.g>, referring to the Hamburg Modula-2
compiler, wrote:

>>> I get quite a few requests for the Hamburg Uni VAX/VMS Modula-2 system.
>>> I wish I could say it was in the public domain but I simply don't know
>>> the current status of the compiler.  The DVItoVDU System Guide gives
>>> the following contact name and address:

>>>    Dr. Joachim W. Schmidt
>>>    Johan Wolfgang Goethe Universitat
>>>    Fachbereich Informatik
>>>    Dantestr. 9 D6000 Frankfurt am Main
>>>    Deutschland

I'm fairly sure that's where we got our copy from (it certainly was
Dr. Schmidt at the Johan Wolfgang Goethe Universitat, Fachbereich Informatik,
but I'm not sure about the Dantestr. 9 D6000), but Andy: it won't compile
with that compiler !  I've heard rumours you re-write parts of it to implement
an advanced syntax rendering EXPORT directives or somesuch un-necessary;
any truth in that ?


Stefanos Manganaris <MANGANAR@EARN.GRPATVX1> asks about \csname, \endcsname:

>>> I define somewhere \currsize to be \huge or \large or similar things, via
 
>>>         \let\currsize\huge
 
>>> Later I want to call a macro that has a name that depends upon the value of
>>> \currsize.  For example, if \currsize has the value \huge I would like to
>>> call my macro \hugegr i.e a macro with "gr" appended to the value of \currsize.

His problem, as I see it, is that his "\let" is {\it immediately} losing
the very information he wants: the name of the control word which is being
ascribed to \currsize.  What I think he needs is "\def \currsize {\huge}",
which then, via "\string", will yield the {\it name} of the control
sequence, not its meaning.  Try:

        \def \currsize {\huge}
        \message {\expandafter \string \currsize}
        \end


Will Hossack <WJH@UK.AC.KCL.PH.IPG> asks for "a current (0.99c) BiBTeX
implementation for VMS, (ie the BIBTEX.CH file for VMS)".  I've sent
him one.


M.N. Ullah <Undefined> asked about using digits in control words:

>>> 1.  How to cheat TeX to enable me to use digits as well as letters in 
>>> control sequence of a macro.

>>> Example:

>>> \def\tm{\font\cs=Times at 10 pt\cs}

>>> When I call \tm it works perfectly.  However, I would like to define the 
>>> macro with number as well.

>>> Example:

>>> \def\tm1{\font\cs=Times at 10 pt\cs}
>>> \def\tm2{\font\cs=Times at 12 pt\cs}
>>> \def\tm3{\font\cs=TimesI at 10 pt\cs}
>>> \def\H1{\font\cs=Helvetica at 10 pt\cs}
>>> etc.

>>> Now if I call \tm1 it does not work!
>>> If i succeed it will make my work of typesetting text very easy.  At the 
>>> star5 of the job I will define the macros using a combination of letters 
>>> and digits and then call them as required.

If this is {\it really} what you want do do, then try:

        \chardef \ten 10
        \chardef \eleven 11

        \catcode `\0 = \eleven
        \catcode `\1 = \eleven
        \catcode `\2 = \eleven
        \catcode `\3 = \eleven
        \catcode `\4 = \eleven
        \catcode `\5 = \eleven
        \catcode `\6 = \eleven
        \catcode `\7 = \eleven
        \catcode `\8 = \eleven
        \catcode `\9 = \eleven

        \def \tm1 {\font\cs=psmtimr at \ten pt\cs}
        
        \tm1

        \end

But I don't advise it !

                                        Philip Taylor
                            Royal Holloway and Bedford New College

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Hello

The Lancaster PD-software archives say that they no longer hold copies
of SBTeX since you are now have it.  Yet as I looked through your
LaTeX directory listings (as well as
[tex-archive]000directory.listing) I could not find any reference to
SBTeX.  I have found DosTeX but would like to compare SBTeX to DosTeX.

I am, in particular, interested in previewers for the IBM-PC/AT with
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Peter Stern and Mike Glendinning want to know how to get hold of the
Hamburg VAX/VMS Modula-2 compiler to create DVITOVDU.

Must it be the actual Hamburg distribution? If so I can't help.
However, If you're willing to pay money, the Hamburg compiler is
marketed by Logitech and the agents for it in this country are Real
Time Associates (phone 01-656-7333).

If you're not willing to pay money, I *might* be able to help: We have
the RTA/Logitech/Hamburg compiler. I could try to compile DVITOVDU for
you and send back the resulting executable. I'm fairly sure that this
doesn't break the license conditions of the compiler.

If people are interested in this wheeze, they should contact me
directly to arrange shipping of the source etc. to me. There is, of
course, no guarantee of success or of how swiftly I'll be able to do
it, but I'll try.  There is definitely no guarantee at all about
maintaining it afterwards.

Don Ward
Systems Design Division
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Boughton Road, Rugby, CV21 1BU UK.      Tel:   (+44 788  or 0788) 542144

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Date:     Fri, 26 May 89  16:54:17 BST
From:     John.Aspden @ uk.ac.newcastle
Subject:  Re: FTPing OzTeX
Cc:       info-tex @ uk.ac.aston.mail
Message-id: <campion.1989.0526.165417.cl50@uk.ac.ncl.mts>
In-reply-to: <13514.8905260827@caxton.ecs.soton.ac.uk>

Many thanks - OzBin.Hqx Ftp'd, de-binhexed and unstuffed correctly.
 
Now I just need to get all those PK files.....

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From:        Don Hosek <U33297@EDU.UIC.UICVM>
Subject:     Re: tracing \input s
In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 20 May 89 18:16:16 BST

On Sat, 20 May 89 18:16:16 BST Sebastian said:
>Don Hosek wants automatic lists of all the files he references
>with \input. Well, thats all very easy I suppose, but then he also
>wants to trace \input s through any other TeX command. So if I say
>  \def\a#1{\b{#1}}
>  \def\b#1{\input #1}
>
>  \b{chapter2}
>
>he wants the reference to chapter 2 traced. Surely this is like the
>perennial spelling check problem, ie it can only be done properly by
>having most of the functionality of TeX in your program?
>
>of course a dirty solution would be to redefine \input so that it
>wrote a message on an external file each time it was called; then
>you'd have to run TeX to get the information, but it would work.
 
Actually what I want is a far simpler solution than that. The commands
in a TeX (or MF) file which can perform an input or input-like function
is small enough that it can easily be specified on an ad hoc basis.
For example, in the application which I want to produce a list of files
used, I need to trace the commands \input, \include, \qvfile and \qfile.
These could be specified on the command line if I really wanted to do
so. An even dirtier solution would be to parse the log file (since that
also writes a list of files opened), but it doesn't seem to difficult
problem to do by hand. The only thing to be wary of is that command syntax
is not always consistent (some of my \input's are in the form \input fn.ext
while others are in the form \input{fn.ext}
 
-dh
 
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    Don Hosek          | Internet: U33297@UICVM.UIC.EDU
    3916 Elmwood       | Bitnet: U33297@UICVM.BITNET
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From:     Don Hosek <U33297@EDU.UIC.UICVM>
Subject:  Re: Previewing DVI files

Andrew Trevorrow's DVItoVDU can easily be modified to drive Tek-emulating
PC terminal programs. However, this is PAINFULLY SLOW. The fastest preview
is done on a system that has direct access to the screen memory (as is the
case with PC's and workstations). However, with a large DVI file, it will
take a long time to download the DVI to the microcomputer. One possible
solution would be to have PK files resident on the PC, and a terminal
emulator which can interface with a Unix host program to transfer the
DVI file a page at a time (along with any additional PKs which may be
necessary) and handle the actual preview display at the PC level without
worrying about any communications bottlenecks while moving about on a
given page.
 
Any takers?
 
-dh
 
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> I have some documentation which I think has been sponsored by a lumberjack [:-)]
> as it takes great delight in having wide borders, leaving blank pages, etc.
> I'd like to cram as much as I can on the page, primarily for online viewing
> (texx2 is GREAT!) but also so as to save a few trees ...
> 
> I have edited it to use the std 10pt (can one easily make it less ?)
> and removed the "twoside" but now I want to use all the page.
> Having played around a bit, I managed to use the RH border, but none of
> the others. So, I'd like a template which has something along the lines of:

You should say whether you use TeX or LaTeX in queries. Your mention
of the a4 style seems to indicate the latter. There is a file called
layout.tex in various archives that draws a layout diagram and
parameters that can be changed.

Plea: do not sacrifice readability in the final copy to save paper.
Putting too many words on a line makes it harder for the eye to
"flyback" to the next line, which is why small type on wide pages are
set in two columns.  I like trees as much as the next person, but I
think previewing and avoiding unnecessary paper usage in the first
place are more effective strategies.

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L.S.
 
I like to have some information about public domain versions of
TeX, MetaFont and related software.
Especially I'm looking for fonts for a 300 dpi laser printer (like
the Apple Laser Writer).
Where can I retrieve the software (if there is any)?
 
Thanks in advance.
 
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The Netherlands.
 
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Subject: sticky labels

Maybe other people don't drool when they see sheets of sticky labels
which can go through laser printers, but I want to clasp them to my
bosom and print neat little logos on every one. Having spent some
frustrating hours with LaTeX doing this, I thought other people out
there might be saved a few minutes hackery, so here you go (you will
probably need to change to a few numbers to get them exactly right on
your printer and your labels)

Sebastian Rahtz

% labels.sty may 28th 1989
% modified `article' style for sticky labels
\typeout{Document Style 'labels'. Released May 29th 1989}
\input article.sty
\parindent=0em\textwidth=8.25in\textheight=11.5in
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\newdimen\areawidth\newdimen\areaheight
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\labelwidth=2.75in
\labelheight=3.55cm
% areawidth and areaheight define the area that will actually be used
\areawidth=\labelwidth
\areaheight=\labelheight
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\halflabel=\labelheight\divide\halflabel by 2
% ----------- basic label macro
\newcount\labelnumber\labelnumber=0
\def\label#1{
% start new paragraph after every 3rd label
\ifnum\labelnumber=3\par\labelnumber=1\else\advance\labelnumber by 1\fi
\makebox[\labelwidth]{%
\rule{0pt}{\labelheight}% a strut of labelheight
% set position to half-way up strut
% forces text forced to be labelheight and vertically centred
\raisebox{\halflabel}[0pt][0pt]{%
\begin{minipage}{\areawidth}#1
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}}}

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Date:           Tue, 30 MAY 89 11:02:43 BST
From:           CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXB
Subject:        Modula-2 compilers
Sender:         JANET"CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXB" <CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXB>
Reply-to:       Philip Taylor (RHBNC) <P.Taylor@Uk.Ac.Rhbnc.Vaxb>
Originally-to:  $UK-TEX
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I have received the following message from Andrew Trevorrow regarding
Mpdula-2 compilers:

 I should have mentioned that Hamburg's compiler was modified at Adelaide
 Uni to conform with Wirth's language revisions as defined in the 3rd edition
 of his book "Programming in Modula-2".  Some bugs were fixed and internal
 compiler limits increased (to allow compilation of a Modula-2 version of TeX
 that eventually led to OzTeX).

 I'd be happy to make this compiler available to the current distributors
 of the Hamburg compiler (whoever and wherever they are!), or to everybody
 if the software is now in the public domain.

                                        Andrew

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Subject: re. Modula-2 and VMS TeX bits

Andrew Trevorrow's info regarding the Modula-2 compiler he used
for DVItoVDU and PSPRINT is still up-to-date, viz the `Hamburg'
compiler is available from
        Dr. Joachim W. Schmidt
        Fachbereich Informatik
        Johann Wolfgang Goethe Universitaet
        Dantestrasse 9
        D6000 Frankfurt-am-Main
        FRG
for about 300 pounds sterling. 

We have been using this Modula2 system for quite a few years now and
since our (OUCS) current version -- V3.2-22  -- is almost two years old
it is time that I was in contact with Dr Schmidt to buy an update.  I
shall also ask him about the possibilty of making the compiler more
available (freely copyable?).

Do non-Modula2 sites (Peter Stern, Mike Glendinning?) really want the
compiler just to amend Andrew's code?  There are versions in C and it
should be possible in about 5-man days to recode the modules in Pascal
for which there is a compiler on most(?) VAX/VMS systems.  If you have
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should be possible to generate the necessary executables either at Aston
or some other site.

--Charles Curran, Oxford University Computing Service.

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Subject: dvi2ps + gf + Postscript
Date: Tue, 30 May 89 20:59:37 BST
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Does anyone have a version of dvi2ps which:

- reads GF format fonts, rather than PK

- understands Postscript fonts

- runs on a UNIX box

The version of dvi2ps I use currently reads GF fonts but doesn't
understand Postscript. I've got Mario Wolczko's PSLaTeX stuff from the
archive and built it, but the dvi2ps wants PK fonts. I'd rather not
change all my fonts to PK unless it is unavoidable.

Thanks,

Andy Ormsby                             aro@uk.ac.aber.cs
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Subject: some replies to questions in UKTeX V89 #20

   I am a dedicated user of SliTeX for preparing overheads.  When
   preparing them, however, it would often be useful to get several of
   them on a page at reduced size, only producing full-size output for

Doesn't Tom Rokicki's dvidvi filter have hacks to do this ort of thing?
[tex-archive.drivers.dvidvi]. As someone who uses a PostScript device,
I'd suggest a filter to redefine showpage etc, and I'm sure there are
some generalised ones around.

------------------
   I am trying to generate a rather long table in LaTeX, and I would like the
   table heading to appear at the top of the table on each page without having
   to fiddle the column heights using the tabbing environment.

supertab.sty is what you want, in 
 [tex-archive.latex.contrib]
but it only works by counting lines, so p{..} constructs in the
preamble will fail
------------------
   Having played around a bit, I managed to use the RH border, but none of
   the others. So, I'd like a template which has something along the lines of:

   \vsize=11.4truein
   \hsize=8.25truein
   \leftmargin 0.5truein
   \topmargin 0.5truein
   \rightmargin 0.5truein
   \bottommargin 0.5truein
I use a style option called a4.sty containing

\topmargin -1in      %    Nominal distance from top of paper to top of page
    \textheight 10in % was 53\baselineskip
\advance\textheight by \topskip
\oddsidemargin=-.3in
\evensidemargin=-.3in
\textwidth=6.6in

but dont ask me why
------------------------
M.N. Ullah says:
   1.  How to cheat TeX to enable me to use digits as well as letters in 
   control sequence of a macro.

forget it. this is contrary to the basic spirit of TeX; if you define
1 to be an element of a macro name, how will you typeset the letter 1?
doubtless there are hacks, but  its not worth it

   In colour separation the headline (for example) is blue the rest of the 
   page is black.  I would like to typeset the page in its entirety, including 
   the headline.  But the output should not show the headline.  A second 
   version of the output should show only the headline and not the text.

now there's an interesting one... the answer, to my mind, clearly lies
in the \special command. I'd define a command \blue, putting headline
etc in it, and make \blue surround its argument with a \special,and
then hack the driver. (all the \special need do is fiddle with setgray
if you are a PostScript person). I bet there's a hacky way in TeX,
though, whereby you define all characters to just output a blank box
rather than themselves.....

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   I have had an inquiry from someone who uses LaTeX on our Unix systems.

   His department has several IBM PC look-alikes and Macintoshes
   that can show graphics on their screens and can
   mimic Tektronix graphics terminals (among other things).

how about getting DVItoVDU which (somewhere I think) has a Tektronix
previewer (or am I dreaming?)



Sebastian Rahtz

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 89 10:26:20
From:         Mike Piff  <PM1MJP @ SHEFFIELD.PRIMEA>
Subject:      \csname...\endcsname,etc

%Stefanos Manganaris asks whether he can \let\currsize\huge, and then, later on,
%get TeX to use the control word \hugegr

%   I don't think you have a hope of doing what you want if you \let \currsize
%to  \huge, etc, since, in a \let, \currsize merely looks at the current meaning
%of \huge;  it retains no information whatsoever about the actual name `\huge'.

%However, if you use \def\currsize{\huge} instead, you can do the following:

\documentstyle{article}

{\catcode`\!=0 \catcode`\\=12
!gdef!gulp#1->\#2 {#2}}
\def\defcurrsizeetc{%to produce \def\hugegr or \def\tinygr, etc,
   \edef\Temp{\noexpand\def\csname\expandafter\gulp\meaning\currsize gr\endcsname}%
   \Temp}
\def\currsize{\huge}
\defcurrsizeetc{Whatever you want to define \hugegr as}
\show\hugegr
\def\currsize{\tiny}
\defcurrsizeetc{Whatever you want to define \tinygr as}
\show\tinygr

% The following makes \currsizeetc behave like \hugegr, \tinygr, etc.
\def\currsizeetc{\csname\expandafter\gulp\meaning\currsize gr\endcsname}

\begin{document}
\end{document}

From        +-------------------------------------+
            | Dr M J Piff,                        |
            | Department of Pure Mathematics,     |
            | University of Sheffield,            |
            | The Hicks Building,                 |
            | Hounsfield Road,                    |
            | SHEFFIELD S3 7RH,                   |
            | England.                            |
            | Tel. SHEFFIELD(0742)768555 Ext 4431 |
            | JANET address: PM1MJP@UK.AC.SHEF.PA |
            +-------------------------------------+

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 89 12:15:19
From:         Mike Piff  <PM1MJP @ SHEFFIELD.PRIMEA>
Subject:      Numerals in control word names

% Someone asks (anonymously) whether it is possible to define control words
% like \tm1, \tm2 that contain numbers. The problem with the way you are doing
% it, with
% \def\tm1{    }
% \def\tm2{    }
% is that the second definition replaces the first, and INSISTS that the
% control word \tm MUST be followed by the digit 2. Thus, \tm1 no longer works.

% There are several ways to get numbers, and, indeed, almost anything, into
% control words. This is probably the neatest way

\documentstyle{article}

\def\deftm#1#{\expandafter\def\csname tm\noexpand#1\endcsname}
%now use this to define your various macros
\deftm20{Font definition 20}   % defines [tm20]
\deftm21{Font definition 21}   % defines [tm21]
\expandafter\show\csname tm20\endcsname  % show [tm20]
\expandafter\show\csname tm21\endcsname  % show [tm21]
%Use the following to allow you to call the macros
\def\tm#1 {\csname tm#1\endcsname}%don't forget the space
% now you can use \tm1 , \tm3 , etc, provided you follow them by a space!
% alternatively, use
%\def\tm#1/{\csname tm#1\endcsname}
% and refer to \tm20/, \tm21/, etc

\begin{document}
%The following are OK:
\tm20 \tm21
%but don't forget the space after the number!
\tm20oops!
%the last one is completely ignored---everything up to the first space after \tm
%will disappear, as the control word [tm20oops!] is treated as \relax.
\end{document}

From        +-------------------------------------+
            | Dr M J Piff,                        |
            | Department of Pure Mathematics,     |
            | University of Sheffield,            |
            | The Hicks Building,                 |
            | Hounsfield Road,                    |
            | SHEFFIELD S3 7RH,                   |
            | England.                            |
            | Tel. SHEFFIELD(0742)768555 Ext 4431 |
            | JANET address: PM1MJP@UK.AC.SHEF.PA |
            +-------------------------------------+

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Date: Wed, 31 May 89 15:33:02 BST
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Subject: Where is the OzTeX config file on aston
Cc: info-tex@uk.ac.aston.ac.uk

I have managed to transfer most of the files which make up OzTeX from
Aston but have not yet found a copy of the file Oz.config.  I have
transferred the files

[TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]DOCS.HQX
[TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]HELPFILE.HQX
[TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]OZBIN.HQX
[TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]PK300.HQX
[TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]PK329.HQX
[TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]TEXFMTS.HQX
[TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]TEXFONTS.HQX
[TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]TEXINPUTS.HQX
[TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]SEDIT.HQX

and will get the files

[TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]PK360.HQX
[TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]PK432.HQX
[TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]PK518.HQX
[TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]PK622.HQX
[TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]PK746.HQX

eventually.  (I can make PK's here).

Therefore can you tell me where the file is.

Thanks in advance,
Simon Brock

PS I did have some problems with some of the .HQX files, I forget
which in that when the files got here lines were terminated with two
newlines rather than one.  This caused my unix based binhex program
'xbin' to get upset.  However, the problem is easily cured...


-- 
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Date:         Wed, 31 May 89 17:02:45 BST
From:         "A.C.Irving" <SX05@UK.AC.LIVERPOOL>
Subject:      TeX User Group

I have been given your name by my local Computing Service. TeX has only
recently been made available on the central IBM3081 so there is only
limited expertise here. I had a couple of queries which I thought someone
involved with Tugboat(?) might be able to help with . Perhaps you could
redirect them to someone more appropriate if necessary.?

1. Where can I get a list of current LaserPrinters for which device
drivers are available? (e.g. We have a Centronics PP8 which I think is
not suitable as it stands)

2. I have PC-TeX and PCDOT and a previewer Viewmax which uses the latters
fonts to give an aceptable preview on a PC AT with EGA or Hercules board.
Do there exist other systems that would enable a preview on an IBM
mainframe accessed via a PC running a 3270 emulator of some kind (eg YTERM)?

3. Do there exist analogues of the Mac program Sweet-TeX (TeX preprocessor)
for PC compatible word processing packages such as ChiWriter or indeed
WordPerfect ?

I would be pleased to get your comments on these points or be put in touch
with someone else who might be able to help.

Thanks,
     Alan Irving
      D.A.M.T.P (Liverpool University)

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L.S.
 
I like to have some information about public domain versions of
TeX, MetaFont and related software.
Especially I'm looking for fonts for a 300 dpi laser printer (like
the Apple Laser Writer).
Where can I retrieve the software (if there is any)?
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Wisse J. van de Guchte
University of Leiden.
Leiden.
The Netherlands.
 
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Date: 01 Jun 89  15:08:24 bst
From: G.Toal @ uk.ac.edinburgh
Subject: Getting AFM Files from laser?
Message-ID: <01 Jun 89  15:08:24 bst  050423@EMAS-A>

Hello again netlanders - I'm still alive, -- just very subdued :)

I want to construct a set of TFM files for our local typesetting
system which we've upgraded to handle PostScript fonts.  I see
that James Clark has a way of converting afm files to pl files,
and I'm sure I have a pl to tfm somewhere, but where do I get the
afm files?  What Ireally want is to generate those by running a
bit of postscript in the printer which sends back an afm file.
   Is this what happens or am I being na\"\i ve?  I think there are
afm files in the archive but it would be preferable in the long term
if we can make them ourselves; especially since one of our ps
printers is a 2400dpi typesetter -- we'd quite like the metrics
to correspond exactly to the device being used.
   Thanks everyone.
      Graham. (gtoal@uk.ac.ed)

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From: spqr@uk.ac.soton.ecs
Date: Mon, 29 May 89 16:58:57 BST
Message-Id: <11777.8905291558@caxton.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Subject: Z macros


Anyone who picks up Mike Spivey's LaTeX macros for typesetting Z may
be interested in getting his later, more sophisicated, tools (see
below). Sadly, these will cost you money.

Sebastian Rahtz

(thanks to Jonathan Bowen for this info)

- ----------
However there is a new version of "zed.sty" called "fuzz.sty" with an
associated manual (better than zmacros.tex) and a Z type-checker.
These are being marketed by Mike Spivey.  E-mail
<mike@uk.ac.oxford.prg> for further details. If there is a suitable
spot for this information on the archive, you could add it.

- ------------

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Date:            2-JUN-1989 15:26:52 GMT
From:           S050@UK.AC.EAST-ANGLIA.CPC865

Peter,

Could you make available the Sedit (I suppose the "correct" name is really
"\Sigma edit") documentation for OzTex. The file OZBIN.HQX
doesn't seem to contain the documentation file. In a recent email conversation
with Seb Rahtz he suggested that either you or Dave Osborne could do the
necessary.

Regards and thanks,

Laurie Benfield.

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 89 17:02:45 BST
From:         "A.C.Irving" <SX05@UK.AC.LIVERPOOL>
Subject:      TeX User Group

I have been given your name by my local Computing Service. TeX has only
recently been made available on the central IBM3081 so there is only
limited expertise here. I had a couple of queries which I thought someone
involved with Tugboat(?) might be able to help with . Perhaps you could
redirect them to someone more appropriate if necessary.?

1. Where can I get a list of current LaserPrinters for which device
drivers are available? (e.g. We have a Centronics PP8 which I think is
not suitable as it stands)

2. I have PC-TeX and PCDOT and a previewer Viewmax which uses the latters
fonts to give an aceptable preview on a PC AT with EGA or Hercules board.
Do there exist other systems that would enable a preview on an IBM
mainframe accessed via a PC running a 3270 emulator of some kind (eg YTERM)?

3. Do there exist analogues of the Mac program Sweet-TeX (TeX preprocessor)
for PC compatible word processing packages such as ChiWriter or indeed
WordPerfect ?

I would be pleased to get your comments on these points or be put in touch
with someone else who might be able to help.

Thanks,
     Alan Irving
      D.A.M.T.P (Liverpool University)

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(paper mail)

From:-

M. N. Ullah
151, Gladstone Park Gardens
London
NW2 6RN

Tel: 01 450 2989                                                                
Date 30.5.1989

Apology to Malcolm!

It does work i.e. TeXtures does not crash any more.  Only I have to quit in 
the Log button or type e and then Return.  If I read the TeXture manual 
carefully I see it cleary:  Print e and then Return.
Small prints are so important in real life.

Mohammed

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Date:         Mon, 05 Jun 89 11:39:49
From:         Mike Piff  <PM1MJP @ SHEFFIELD.PRIMEA>
Subject:      Lumberjacks, etc.

Piete Brooks asks how to use more of the page when previewing a file in LaTeX.

The following should work. Put it after the \documentstyle line:

\pagestyle{empty}             %no header or footer
\textwidth 8in                %8in wide
\textheight 11.25in           %11.25in deep
\oddsidemargin 0in            %no extra space on
\evensidemargin 0in           %left...
\topmargin 0in                %or top
\headheight 0in               %header has zero height
\footheight 0in               %so does footer, but this parameter isn't used!
\headsep 0in                  %no space header to text
\footskip 0in                 %or text to footer
\hoffset -.9in                %left margin 1in-.9in=.1in
\voffset -.9in                %top margin 1in-.9in=.1in

Knuth warns against changing \hoffset and \voffset when printing a file, as the
printer  may  be  so  set  up  that  it  is incapable of using the left and top
margins.

On my screen, this arrangement is more difficult to read, as  I  have  to  keep
scrolling left and right to see the long lines!

   Mike

From        +-------------------------------------+
            | Dr M. J. Piff,                      |
            | Department of Pure Mathematics,     |
            | University of Sheffield,            |
            | The Hicks Building,Hounsfield Road, |
            | SHEFFIELD S3 7RH,England.           |
            | Tel. SHEFFIELD(0742)768555 Ext 4431 |
            | JANET address: PM1MJP@UK.AC.SHEF.PA |
            +-------------------------------------+

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From: Farzin Deravi <eederavi@uk.ac.swan.pyr>
Date: Fri, 26 May 89 10:42:04-0000
Message-Id: <13462.8905260942@pyr.swan.ac.uk>
Subject: PC Previewer


Dear Peter Abbott

Is there a  TeX/DVI Previewer for PCs (with Hercules graphics)
in the public domain? (possibly in TeX archives at Aston??).

Thanks for your help.

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Date: Tue, 06 Jun 89 09:39:31 BST
From: RM111@UK.AC.CAMBRIDGE.PHOENIX
Subject: Metafont on Sun 4
Message-ID: <A06B38A9AA90EA80@UK.AC.CAM.PHX>

Dear Peter,

Is there anyone out there who has experience of running Metafont on a Sun 4
Workstation? I should be grateful to hear about any problems before attempting
this myself.
Rod Mulvey
Cambridge University Press
 

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From: Luke Whitaker <luke@uk.ac.city.cs>
Date:  Wed, 7 Jun 89 10:02:26 +0100 
Message-Id: <8906070902.AA10303@uk.ac.city.cs>
Subject: Problem hhcp'ing binary files from tex-archive

I'm sure this problem has been thrashed to death already so apologies for
that, but:

I can't seem to hhcp binary files from the archive to my unix machine.
(I am using a Gould PN6040 running UTX2.0, which is based on BSD 4.3).
The transfers just hang, retrying indefinitely (well, > 24 hours anyway).
Text files transfer without problems.

The files I want are msxm10.*pk and msym10.*pk.

Anyone got any ideas what I can do?

Luke Whitaker.

PS :
I could get round this if the Metafont ms[xy]m10.mf files were in the 
archive, but they seem not to be. Anyone know why, or if I could get them?

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Date:            7-JUN-1989 14:26:13 GMT
From:           FPS@UK.AC.IMPERIAL.CC.VAXA
subject: GUTenberg

\font\iteight=cmti8
\font\ttit=cmtt10
\def\talk#1#2{\medskip\noindent\ignorespaces{#1}}%
\it #1\/}: #2.\quad} 
\def\TeXtures{{\sc\TeX\kern-0.1667em tures}}
\def\<#1>{{\tt\char'074}#1{\tt\char'076}}
\def\|{\ifmmode\Vert\else{\tt\char'174}\fi}
\def\ukTUG{{\sc uk}\kern-0.2em\TeX}
\let\Bf\bf

\centerline{\Bf R\'eflexions sur le Congr\`es GUTenberg}
\centerline{\bf Paris, Mai 16--17, 1989}
\medskip
\noindent
The French \TeX\ users group has been around for a few
years, in an `unofficial' form. Over the last year or so
they have become `official', much more active and they now
organise an annual meeting. The first well-publicised
GUTenberg meeting was held in Paris last year. I was
impressed there by the attendence (well over 100), the
stamina (the room was tiny and without air-conditioning),
and the range of topics covered. There is, in any case, a
tradition of \TeX\ activity in France -- the second
European \TeX\ Conference was held in Strasbourg, in
1986. 

This year's meeting was again in Paris, but used far
larger rooms to accommodate the 120--150 people who
attended. Scanning down the list of attendees, there
are the usual academic and research
organisations, but also publishers, and the printing trade
in general. This bodes well for the future. The meeting
was held over two days: the first day was given over to
two seminars -- one on \LaTeX\ (from Olivier Nicole and
Jacques Andr\'e), and the other on \MF\ (Victor
Ostromoukhov); followed by the AGM. The second day was the
conference proper. I attended part of Victor's `Premiers
pas en \MF'. As usual, I was impressed by Victor's breadth
and depth of \MF-lore. And he seemed to be getting
something useful across to the forty or so would be \MF
ers. Since he used a Macintosh to demonstrate the points,
there was a reasonably quick interaction between intention
and realisation. I confess I didn't stay to all of this;
my powers of concentration are not great enough to follow
a full day of technical \MF\ (far less in a foreign
tongue). However, one quote from Victor:

\centerline{\<mathematical typesetting> $\rightarrow$ 
\<empty>\|\<\TeX>}
\centerline{\<\TeX>$\rightarrow$\<\TeX82>\<font support>}

\noindent
That sums things up nicely I think.

Bernard Gaulle, GUTenberg's President ran the AGM
with great efficiency and some humour. I
particularly like the French style of democracy (it runs:
question -- `anyone against?'; answer -- `no'; conclusion
-- `passed'; excellent). I won't plough through all the
bits of the AGM, except to note that the group is in
excellent financial health, that this is a year of
anniversaries in France -- 200 years since the
Revolution, but also some others: 10 years of TUG, 50
years of CNRS (Centre Nationale de la Recherche
Scientifique), one of the homes of \TeX, and of course
this is also the year of the 4th European \TeX\ Conference.
The  AGM honoured two people with `honorary membership':
Barbara Beeton and Raymond Seroul (the author of {\sl Le
petit Livre de \TeX})). By way of recognition, they were
each presented with an edition of `Les bons Romans',
published over a hyndred years ago. Peter Abbott was also
thanked for the help he has given in easing `[les]
perturbations {\sc earn}/Bitnet'. I was particularly
pleased to see Barbara honoured and Peter thanked in this
way. The whole \TeX\ community owes them much for their
dedicated adherence to the cause, and it was particularly
refreshing and tactful that GUTenberg saw fit to include
them in this way.

Besides this conference, GUTenberg produces its own
journal, {\sl Cahiers GUTenberg}. The inaugural (or
prototype) edition (confusingly numbered `z\'ero') was
available at last year's conference. The first and
second editions were out by this year's conference. Many
of the talks in the conference were also printed in the
{\sl Cahiers} (which helped me enormously). Although the
group is `francophone', several articles are in English.
Allowing for the technical words which dictionaries never
seem to get right, it isn't too difficult to make sense
out of the papers/articles. The {\sl Cahiers} represent a
major undertaking, in time, effort, and in financial
commitment (as I well know from my own limited venture in
\TeXline). If the high standards already being established
are maintained, GUTenberg will have created something which
will be of great and lasting service to the whole \TeX\
community.  My only minor criticism of the {\sl Cahiers}
is the lack of consistency in the provision of abstracts
(a failing it shares with  TUGboat). If
abstracts were included, it would be possible to prepare
multilingual translations which could be circulated more
widely, alerting others to the range and relevance of the
material.

The major theme of the Conference was `graphics' -- a
popular one these days. Fortunately, thanks to Sebastian
Rahtz' talks, I think I know a little about the background
here. Rather than report each talk in detail, it is
perhaps more productive to try to select some of the
major themes. After all, the text of most of the talks is
available. As usual, it is notable how far \LaTeX\
dominates in Europe (or perhaps, just outside the US). It
is also notable that `standards', however defined, keep
cropping up: X-Windows, \PS, \TeX\ itself, PHIGS, GKS,
\sgml, and even emacs. This seems particularly healthy,
although equally there are many forays into areas which
are less portable. Nevertheless, the apparent domination
of C, as the implementation language of choice, (with or
without the spectre of Unix) would indicate the
possibility of transfering some of the applications to
other platforms. From the summaries, it is evident that
one of the great concerns is the use of \PS, and the
incorporation of \PS\ (and {\sc epsf}) files into
(especially) \LaTeX. Perhaps my favourite paper was
Maurice Laugier's. His was a very simple and
straightforward idea -- namely that the pc's graphics
characters may be napped quite easily into rules, and
that tables (and some diagrams) may be prepared by this
means, provided that a monospaced font is adequate.

A list of the talks, together with a brief summary (usually
the authors'/author's own) is included here. Some of the
talks were in English (a bold move for a francophone
group), and some summaries (notably that of Lance Carnes)
were distributed in English and French. Very tactful.

\talk{L'ann\'ee de tous les anniversaires}{Bernard Gaulle}
A welcome to GUTenberg, and an overview of the services
and facilities available to \TeX\ users in France (and
elesewhere); touches on the public, private and
commercial domains; addresses GUTenberg's relationship
with the rest of the world.

\talk{Xwindows, \LaTeX, \TeX draw et Plot79, ou comment
calculer, r\'ediger, dessiner et imprimer plus
ais\'ement}{Nicolas Brouard} A workstation running under
X-Windows offers a way of calculating, writing and
designing which is much simpler than with a `classic'
terminal. Two graphics tools, \TeX Draw (a public analogue
of MacDraw) and PLOT79 (a 3D graphics system based on
CORE), can easily be employed with \LaTeX.

\talk{\TeX\ and Graphics: the state of the
problem}{Nelson Beebe} Inclusion of graphics in documents
typset by \TeX\ is not yet a satisfactorily solved
problem, and no final general solution is in sight. This
paper surveys alternatives for insertion of graphics in
\TeX\ documents. It summarizes graphics primitives of
several modern software systems, and shows how \TeX\
has seriously deficient support for their direct
incorporation in \TeX\ itself.

\talk{L'environment de production de documents \TeX\ \`a
l'IRISA}{Philippe Louarn \& Bertrand Decouty} The group
consists of over 200 researchers, teachers and engineers,
who need to produce reports, articles, theses,
books\dots\ The objective was to provide a set of
homogenous tools in a heterogenous environment (Unix,
VMS, workstations, pcs\dots). Naturally, \TeX\ was chosen
as the fundamental tool. In graphics, the two main
avenues are through the incorportion of \PS, and by the
use of {\tt eepic} in the \LaTeX\ picture environment.

\talk{Survey of \TeX\ Graphics for the PC}{Lance Carnes}%
This talk reviews the various graphics systems offerings
for the IBM pc and compatibles, and the ways these
systems can be used in conjunction with \TeX; the use of
\PS, HP PCL and bitmap files in conjunction with current
\TeX\ drivers; the use of output from screen oriented
drawing systems; and the conversion of graphics files
from one format to another, and scaling of images, for
inclusion in documents.

\talk{\TeX\ et les graphiques dans l'environment
Mac}{Anestis Antoniadis} Painting and drawing are the two
sides of the creation of graphics on the Macintosh.
{\sl Paint\/} images (otherwise known as bitmaps) are known
to the Mac as a set of points on the screen. {\sl Draw}
images (also known as vector drawings) are known to the
Mac as objects (rectangles, lines, circles, polygons) and
are defined by their mathematical attributes. As a
consequence of the way in which they are defined, they
take full advantage of the resolution of  \PS\
peripheral devices. The goal of this article is to give
an overview of the methods and software for the
generation of graphics on the Mac, and to discuss the
insertion of such graphics in documents prepared with
\TeXtures, one of the implementations of \TeX\ on the
Macintosh.

\talk{\MFsl\ et \PS}{Victor Ostromoukhov} Conversion
between \MF\ and \PS\ is possible. What are the best
techniques, and what are the constraints? (No written
contribution, but see his  Mac\MF\ program.)

\talk{DDI: un environnement de travail pour la
r\'ealisation de graphiques scientifiques, techniques et
fantaisies utilisables avec \TeX}{Andr\'e Violante} DDI is
a work environment for the creation of scientific,
technical and artistic graphics. The fundamental of the
system is the creation and use of graphic fonts. To use
these, several tools are available: design software
({\tt Designcad}); a program to convert {\tt Designcad}
files to \MF; \MF\ itself; GFtoPK; \TeX; and a suitable
device driver.

\talk{{\bf texpic}: design and implementation of a picture
graphics language in \TeX\ \`a la {\ttit pic}}{Rolf
Olejniczak} {\bf texpic} is a \TeX\ implementation of a
graphics language similar to Kerhighan's {\tt troff}
preprocessor {\tt pic}. The implmentation consists of two
parts, a set of elaborate \TeX\ macros and a postprocessor
for drawing (in the {\tt dvi} file). {\bf texpic} objects
and \TeX\ or \LaTeX\ commands may be combined at will.
{\bf texpic} is written in C, and is fully portable, to
the extent that every \TeX\ implementation, every preview
and every correctly written printer driver will work with
{\bf texpic}.


\talk{Traduction en \TeX\ d'un
fichier \sgml\  avec r\'ecup\'eration des graphiques et des
tableaux}{Maurice Laugier} The logic of \sgml\  markup is
close to that of \LaTeX, and translation from  \sgml\  to
\LaTeX\ can be realised quite simply. However, the problem
is rather different for graphics and tables. This paper
presents a way in which the PC graphics characters were
successfully mapped into \LaTeX, easing the production of
tables and simple diagrams.

\talk{GI\TeX, PAPS: deux logiciels minipulant \PS\ et
\LaTeX}{Christophe C\'erin}From PC-based graphics
programs, PAPS (Programme d'Application \PS) transforms an
image into a \PS\ format. It will also allow some
manipulation of the graphics image. GI\TeX\
(G\'en\'erateur d'Image \TeX) is a program which allows a
{\tt figure} environment to be constructed for inclusion
of the \PS\ into a \LaTeX\ file.


\talk{L'incorporation de graphiques dans
INRS\TeX}{\nl Michael Ferguson} The approach used in
INRS\TeX\ is to use the power of the printer to create
graphics, and not to introduce special characters. The
capability to generate graphics has been achieved for \PS,
and for QMS graphics on a QUIC laser printer. Th paper
discusses the role of the printer as well as the need for
support software to permit the incorporation of graphics
produced by other systems. The paper also discusses some
of the limitations inherent in the choice of graphics
systems.

Like most conferences, the most interesting and valuable
discussions take place in the corridors, over coffee, or
at lunch. This tradition was maintained here. The
corridors were also used to display various pieces of
\TeX ware. The inclusion of a noticeboard for general
\TeX-notices, trivial as it seems,  was extremely useful.
There was a display of ArborText's Publisher (about the
only place you don't see Publisher these days is in the
UK), and an extensive display of books, where Raymond
Seroul's book was selling well (on its first day of
publication).


\medskip 
\leftline{\Bf Conclusion}
\noindent
I was impressed. There can be no doubt about it,
GUTenberg provides us all with much to emulate. The
strength and coherence of the group is manifest. Taken
purely at the national (or francophone) level, GUTenberg
is contributing massively to the strength of \TeX. The
{\sl Cahiers} are excellent, and looks capable of
sustained quality. The annual meeting is now
well-established and imaginative. GUTenberg's involvement
with several French publishers must also be a good sign.

GUTenberg is also keenly aware of other French speaking
areas  (Belgium, Switzerland, Quebec) and of the
advantages of international electronic communication. And
the committee ensured that the various national
representatives (myself, representing TUG and \ukTUG;
Joachim Lammarsch, representing the German group, Dante;
and Kees van der Laan representing the Dutch group) had
the opportunity to discuss how we could cooperate for the
common good. 

I am a shade worried by what I see as the determination
to stay outside the TUG orbit. Perhaps I am over-sensitive
-- being described either as English  or Anglo-Saxon does
tend to make me a trifle testy -- but I have always
thought of TUG as an international organisation, not an
American one. Others do not share this perception. If our
conclusion is that we are not getting what we need out of
TUG, the solution is in our own hands. We can influence
the organisations in which we participate. That's the key
-- participation. \TeX\ must be worth it.

\medskip
\leftline{\Bf Joining GUTenberg; subscribing to the
Cahiers} 
\noindent
To join GUTenberg, you need only part with 200 FF. This
has two advantages (besides preparing you for 1992 and
demonstrating your adherance to the European ideal) -- it
enables you to pay a reduced fee at the annual meeting
and for the {\sl Cahiers}. To obtain the {\sl Cahiers}
costs a further 150 FF if you are a member, but 250 FF if
you are not. This year's conference cost 200 FF for
members and 400 FF for non-members. Clearly membership
pays for itself if you are contemplating attending the
conference and taking the journal. In other words,
joining GUTenberg and subscribing to the {\sl Cahiers}
costs you a total of 350 FF (made payable to GUTenberg). Of
course Eurocheques are acceptable. 

Note that membership comes in several different categories:
individual membership is 200 FF; institutional membership
on behalf of a non-profit organisation is 700 FF; while
institutional membership on behalf of profit-making (as
opposed to {\it profitable}?) organisation is a hefty 1400
FF.  On the other hand, institutional membership does
allow you to nominate up to seven individuals.

Send your money to:
{\obeylines
\quad GUTenberg
\quad c/o IRISA
\quad Campus Universitaire de Beaulieu
\quad 35042 Rennes Cedex
\quad France
}
\rightline{\sl Malcolm Clark}

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Date:     Thu, 08 Jun 89  10:39:05 BST
From:     Roger.Gawley @ uk.ac.durham
Subject:  Help requested with parallel language setting
Message-id: <campion.1989.0608.103905.cl12@uk.ac.dur.mts>

Has anybody already done this?
 
I am helping someone who needs to produce a number of displays like this
 
(9)     i)   y     bachgen   a      welodd   y     ci
             the   boy       COMP   saw-3s   the   dog
             `the boy who saw the dog'
             `the dog who saw the boy'
       ii)   y bachgen a welodd t y ci
      iii)   y bachgen a welodd y ci t
 
The first two lines are parallel sentences in Welsh and English; the
rest of the lines have no internal alignment but should align at the
start. We do it at the moment using an \halign with an untidy
combinbation of \omits and \spans. This works but the typing is messy
and the individual haligns do not align with each other.
 
It really wants a combination of \settabs for the first two columns
with \halign for the parallel language parts. If this looks familiar
and you think you have already done something like it, would you mail
your solution to me? Thanks in advance,
 
Roger.Gawley@UK.AC.Durham

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Date:           Thu,  8 JUN 89 16:37:45 BST
From:           TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS
Subject:        RE: Maintaining LARGE files in the TeX archive
Sender:         JANET"TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS" <TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS>
Message-Id:     <0000029A_000698B0.00925F94A4D24D00$10_2@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS>
Originally-to:  JANET%UK.AC.UMIST.CN.PA::YMUMMD
Originally-from:TEX          "RMCS TeX Account"
Mailer:         Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989)

In UKTeX v89 #20, Mike Glendinning writes that he'd like to see some method of 
disseminating the CHANGES only between two generations of a large file (such 
as TEX.WEB).  Adrian Clark responds in the same issue, pointing out the 
problems that this would cause to non-VMS sites, but since Mike specifically 
instances my DVItoLN03 (which is VMS-only), perhaps I should reply.

The problem with a DIFFerences file for DVItoLN03.WEB is that there were so
many changes between V2.1 and V3.0 that the differences file would have been
almost as large as the original WEB --- now admittedly that's still some way
short of the size of the new WEB, but it's still pretty large!  I will accept 
that a file to drive SUMSLP (produced with DIFF/SLP) would have been smaller 
than this, but it would still have been quite large (and occupied disk space 
at Aston).  (Besides which, I'm never very confident of things which rely upon 
line numbers to perform edits, without any checks that the correct text is 
being replaced.  Of course, whilst I was developing the new version, I worked 
with a WEB change file, and could have distributed that, but again it was as 
large as the old WEB source.)

                               Brian {Hamilton Kelly}

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Hello TeX-ers,
this is to inform you that almost all the material at the archive-server
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and
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Files can be directly copied from SPAN. In this way there is no problem
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For further infos, send a message on SPAN (DECNET) to:   39003::fisica
 
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