UKTeX V89 #37       Friday 13 October 1989

                          BibTeX style files (again)
                                 TeX for suns
                             DOS TeX distribution
                                  DECUS TeX
                               mailserver info
      A LaTeX style file to track size-changing commands using Cyrillic
                                  tex books
                                  Thesis.sty
                         Re: HP LaserJet II drivers?
                           HP LaserJet II drivers?
                                    dvitps
                 Help on using Aston mail server from the USA
                           Installing DOSTeX v2.93a
                           Re: Flush right for text
                                  DINA4.STY
                              UKTeX users group
                          Empty parameters to macros
                  Access to the European TeXserver at Aston
                       Problems installing DosTeX 2.93a
                                  TEX server
                          Apple Laserwriter Drivers
                   * Announcing Weave V3.0-2 for Vax/VMS *
                   * Announcing TeX V2.991-10 for Vax/VMS *
                     * Announcing Tangle V3 for Vax/VMS *
                              DviToPS on Primes
                    sb26tex - first impressions favourable
                    TeX on the Atari ST - some experiences
                           Thesis styles, Latex ...
                     THESIS.STY complying to BS4821:1972

Editor Peter Abbott

Issue 38 will be delayed one week to October 27 1989.
                                                                   

Latest TeXhax in the Archive is #90 
Latest TeXmag in the Archive is V3N3                      

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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 89 11:06:40 BST
From: David_Rhead@uk.ac.nottingham.ccc.vme
Subject: BibTeX style files (again)
Message-ID: < 5 Oct 89 11:06:40 A1008A@UK.AC.NOTT.VME>         

You'll probably see an entry from me earlier in this issue, in which I
suggested that a bst file that aimed to conform to the British Standards
for citations and bibliographies would be A GOOD THING.  (Since the BS
allow for a range of possibilities, and for different interpretations,
there could actually be more that one such bst file.)
 
Since I sent the entry, I've been trying to produce such a bst file.
More specifically, I've been trying to produce a bst file that:
- conforms to the BS in content and in BS-preferred ordering
- takes the typography of the BS as representative of British practice
  and tries to imitate it.  (Thus, although the BS does not specify
  the typography, I'm taking the BS as indicative of UK mainstream
  practice.)
If the BS is vague on a point, I refer to "Copy-editing" by Butcher
(and I look at her for typography too, since the BSI seems to have a
non-mainstream house-style).  If she is vague (or suggests something
that is difficult in BibTeX/LaTeX), I try the Chicago Manual of Style.
 
By starting from apalike.bst, apalike.sty and aaai.sty, I've got bst and
sty files that achieve what I had in mind in simple cases, but still
have a few misplaced commas and full-stops in more complicated cases.
This has all been at the hacking level, rather than the "understanding
what I'm doing" level.  (In certain complicated cases, I don't think
that any amount of understanding of BibTeX would enable someone to
produce entries as shown in the BS, but I think that such cases arise
so rarely that they're not worth bothering about.)
 
I don't think I'll have time to become one of the six to ten UK people
that Malcolm postulates may wish to learn about the inner workings
of BibTeX.  However, if any of the "six to ten" also happen to be
interested in having a BS-like bst file, I'd be most willing to let
them have the files I've produced so far for them to "do an iteration"
on.
                                                         David Rhead

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Subject: TeX for suns

Dear Peter Abbott

We are hoping to install TeX on our SUN system in the Mathematics Department
at Exeter (I know I am sending this from Warwick - old habits die hard!).

We have 1 sun 3/60, 2 sun 3/50 and 1 sun 4. Wewould probably like to
install TeX on the Sun 4. Could you tell me whether the tape you advertise
in the UKTeX bulletins is suitable for the SUNS. We are particularly
interested in having a pre-compiled version of TeX and also a good
previewer.

Thanks for your help

Ben Mestel
Mathematics Department
University of Exeter
North Park Road
Exeter EX4 4QE
Tel: 0392 - 263263 x. 3987
     0392 - 55841

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From:    Wujastyk (on GEC 4190 Rim-B at UCL) <UCGADKW@UK.AC.UCL.EUCLID>
Date:    Thu, 5 Oct 89 12:18
Subject: DOS TeX distribution
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Peter,
You have been distributing OZTeX for some time now, as an Archive
service.  I believe you have plans to do something similar for 
a DOS version of TeX.  I have recently had several people asking me
for TeX for their PCs, and I don't want to go through the trouble 
of preparing disks, documentation, etc., if you are going to 
release something in the near future.
 
Anything I give out will be based on the excellent sb26tex, and Beebe's
drivers.  What is much needed is a really good, general purpose
screen previewer in the pd.  All the ones I have played with have
some restriction or other.  DVIEW is the most promising, I feel,
if Ward can broaden it to accept pk files (not just pxl) and to 
scale up and down from printer-resolution fonts.
 
Dominik

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Editor - Our plans provide for distrbution of software on diskettes but I
anticipate that it will NOT start until early in 1990. The main problem is
preparing the procedures to automate as far as possible the production of
diskettes according to the requests.

The archivegroup held a meeting on Tuesday October 10 and this subject was
discussed. Other items included the provision of a 00read.me and 00files.txt in
EVERY subdirectory. Further announcements will be made in the near future.
 
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Date:           Thu, 5 Oct 89  15:37 BST
From:           AGBG1787@UK.AC.QUEENS-BELFAST.CENTRE.VAX1
Subject:        DECUS TeX

Peter - Here is the first message I sent:
 
We are interested in obtaining the DECUS TeX Collection (Aug '89 ref VS0058)
as mentioned in a recent TeXhax announcement. (Also mentioned in TUGBOAT 
Vol 10 No. 2, p196 July 1989.) Do you have access to this collection?
Could you let us have a copy?
         Thanks,  Mike Davison

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Editor - I have a DECUS tape but have no idea of the date of creation. If
someone can supply a master we can add it to the list of copyable tapes.
 
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Date: 05 Oct 89  16:52:34 bst
From: G.Toal <ZESZ01@uk.ac.edinburgh.emas-a>
Subject: mailserver info
Message-ID: <05 Oct 89  16:52:34 bst  050259@EMAS-A>

Peter, I was looking out info on the mailserver for a friend at acorn
who wanted to get the latex style files,  and discovered that the text at
the bottom of the uktex newsletter describes ftp access but not mail
access.  Could you perhaps add a short (4 lines?) note on how to ask
for the basic help file?
   One more suggestion: we ask texhax to put a subscription address for
uktex at the end of their newsletter, and we do likewise for them! (Clearly
there is no point in putting the uktex address in uktex since to read the
message you already get the mail :-))
   Graham.

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Editor - The `tail' will be rewritten as soon as time permits.
 
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From:		TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS
Subject:        A LaTeX style file to track size-changing commands using Cyrillic
Sender:         JANET"TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS" <TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS>
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Acknowledge-to: RMCS TeX Account
Originally-to:  UKTEX,TEXHAX
Originally-from:TEX          "RMCS TeX Account"
Mailer:         Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989)

In response to a query in TeXhax V89 #88 concerning the use of Cyrillic in 
sizes other than the default, I feel it's time to release the following style 
file.  It was written last year by my colleague Niel Kempson and myself, and 
the same principles are used in my GREEK.STY to provide similar support for 
use with my Greek fonts.

It associates additional commands with each of LaTeX's size-changing commands 
through the use of the \@addfontinfo command, such that the \cyr and \cyb 
commands select the appropriately magnified font.
                               Brian {Hamilton Kelly}

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ JANET:     tex@uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs                                     +
+ BITNET:    tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@ac.uk                               +
+ INTERNET:  tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk                  +
+ Smail:     School of Electrical Engineering & Science, Royal Military   +
+            College of Science, Shrivenham, SWINDON SN6 8LA, U.K.        +
+ Phone:     Swindon (0793) 785252 (UK), +44-793-785252 (International)   +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
P.S. Of course, nowadays it should be converted to use Schoepf and 
Mittelbach's new font coding scheme.
P.P.S. It won't work with SliTeX --- I don't suppose anyone feels like 
rewriting SFONTS.TEX to use a similar selection mechanism to LFONTS.TEX?
%
%------------------------------cut here------------------------------------
%
% CYRILLIC.STY - 08-SEP-1988
% ~~~~~~~~~~~~
%
% Allow LaTeX to use the AMS cyrillic fonts.
%
% \cyr	-	cyrillic
% \cyb	-	cyrillic bold
% 
%
% AUTHORS:	Niel Kempson & Brian Hamilton Kelly,
% 		School of Electrical Engineering and Science,
% 		Royal Military College of Science,
% 		Shrivenham,
% 		SWINDON 
% 		SN6 8LA
% 		ENGLAND
%
% Telephone:	(+793) 785687 / 785252
% JANET:	tex@uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs
%
%
% Input the hyphenation and transliteration macros.
%
\input cyracc.def

%
% The fonts are loaded on demand, but don't demand too many or LaTeX
% will exhaust its font memory.
%

\def\cyr{\protect\pcyr}
\def\cyb{\protect\pcyb}

\def\m@cyr{mcyr10}
\def\m@cyb{mcyb10}

\newfam\cyrfam
\newfam\cybfam

\@addfontinfo\@vpt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@vpt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@vipt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@vipt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@viipt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@viipt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@viiipt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@viiipt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@ixpt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@ixpt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@xpt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@xpt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@xipt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@xipt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@xiipt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@xiipt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@xivpt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@xivpt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@xviipt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@xviipt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@xxpt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@xxpt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@xxvpt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@xxvpt\@prtct\cyracc}}

\@addfontinfo\@vpt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@vpt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@vipt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@vipt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@viipt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@viipt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@viiipt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@viiipt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@ixpt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@ixpt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@xpt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@xpt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@xipt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@xipt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@xiipt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@xiipt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@xivpt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@xivpt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@xviipt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@xviipt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@xxpt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@xxpt\@prtct\cyracc}}
\@addfontinfo\@xxvpt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@xxvpt\@prtct\cyracc}}


\def\cyr@vpt{%
	\@subfont\cyr\rm
	\let\cyr@vpt=\relax}
\def\cyr@vipt{%
	\@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@vipt{mcyr6}%
	\let\cyr@vipt=\relax}
\def\cyr@viipt{%
	\@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@viipt{mcyr7}%
	\let\cyr@viipt=\relax}
\def\cyr@viiipt{%
	\@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@viiipt{mcyr8}%
	\let\cyr@viiipt=\relax}
\def\cyr@ixpt{%
	\@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@ixpt{mcyr9}%
	\let\cyr@ixpt=\relax}
\def\cyr@xpt{%
	\@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@xpt{\m@cyr}%
	\let\cyr@xpt=\relax}
\def\cyr@xipt{%
	\@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@xipt{\m@cyr\@halfmag}%
	\let\cyr@xipt=\relax}
\def\cyr@xiipt{%
	\@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@xipt{\m@cyr\@magscale1}%
	\let\cyr@xiipt=\relax}
\def\cyr@xivpt{%
	\@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@xipt{\m@cyr\@magscale2}%
	\let\cyr@xivpt=\relax}
\def\cyr@xviipt{%
	\@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@xipt{\m@cyr\@magscale3}%
	\let\cyr@xviipt=\relax}
\def\cyr@xxpt{%
	\@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@xipt{\m@cyr\@magscale4}%
	\let\cyr@xxpt=\relax}
\def\cyr@xxvpt{%
	\@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@xipt{\m@cyr\@magscale5}%
	\let\cyr@xxvpt=\relax}


\def\cyb@vpt{%
	\@subfont\cyb\cyr
	\let\cyb@vpt=\relax}
\def\cyb@vipt{%
	\@subfont\cyb\cyr
	\let\cyb@vipt=\relax}
\def\cyb@viipt{%
	\@subfont\cyb\cyr
	\let\cyb@viipt=\relax}
\def\cyb@viiipt{%
	\@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@viiipt{mcyb8}%
	\let\cyb@viiipt=\relax}
\def\cyb@ixpt{%
	\@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@ixpt{mcyb9}%
	\let\cyb@ixpt=\relax}
\def\cyb@xpt{%
	\@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@xpt{\m@cyb}%
	\let\cyb@xpt=\relax}
\def\cyb@xipt{%
	\@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@xipt{\m@cyb\@halfmag}%
	\let\cyb@xipt=\relax}
\def\cyb@xiipt{%
	\@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@xipt{\m@cyb\@magscale1}%
	\let\cyb@xiipt=\relax}
\def\cyb@xivpt{%
	\@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@xipt{\m@cyb\@magscale2}%
	\let\cyb@xivpt=\relax}
\def\cyb@xviipt{%
	\@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@xipt{\m@cyb\@magscale3}%
	\let\cyb@xviipt=\relax}
\def\cyb@xxpt{%
	\@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@xipt{\m@cyb\@magscale4}%
	\let\cyb@xxpt=\relax}
\def\cyb@xxvpt{%
	\@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@xipt{\m@cyb\@magscale5}%
	\let\cyb@xxvpt=\relax}
%------------------------------and here------------------------------------

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Date: Thu 5 Oct 89 10:17:59-EST
From: bbeeton <BNB@com.ams.math>
Subject: tex books
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presumabp.g. collis asks for more information on some book references he's
seen in texhax and texmag.  here is what i know about the specific
books he mentioned.

stephan bechtolsheim, another look at tex -- published by springer verlag, 
and should appear, presumably, very soon; the last communication i had
from stephan on the subject said september.  don't know the isbn.

arthur samuel, first grade tex, and mike urban, a guide to tex for the
troff user -- both published by the tex users group and available from
them.  for prices and further information, send a message to
	tug@math.ams.com
on the u.s. internet.  stephan's book will also be available from tug,
though that's not the most practical option from the u.k.
						-- barbara beeton

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From:           Sandy Yates <CHEAJY@UK.AC.HERIOT-WATT.VAXB>
Subject:        Thesis.sty


Can you help me.
I am writing my doctoral thesis soon and I wanted to use the LATEX present it.
Can you tell me if anyone has produced a "THESIS.STY" that will do this.
SUTHESIS.STY and MITTHESIS.STY are not correct for the British theses.
Can you help?
		Thank you,
			  Sandy

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Subject: Re: HP LaserJet II drivers? 
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In-reply-to: Sebastian Rahtz's message of Sat, 30 Sep 89 15:26:59 -0000.
             <6942.8909301426@alonzo.ecs.soton.ac.uk> 
X-Organization: Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham, UK
X-Postal: University Park, Nottingham  NG7 2RD, England
X-Phone: +44 (602) 484848 ext 2064
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 89 13:01:49 BST
Message-ID: <7729.623764909@clan>
From: David Osborne <cczdao@uk.ac.nott.clan>


in Sebastian's message of Sat, 30 Sep 89 15:26:59 -0000, he said:

> A colleague here has asked me to forward the following question:
> 
>   do you run TeX on a VMS Vax and get output on an HP LaserJet II? if
>   so, what driver do you use, where did you get it, and can we have a copy?
>   we have been working with the Beebe drivers but cannot get proper
>   output.

the crucial thing is in setting up the way VMS deals with the printer.

back in the now distant days when we were going to offer a TeX service
on our Vaxes, the first usable laser printer we had for TeX output was
a new LJ II which i re-directed into the machine room on its way to
one of our secretaries' desks.  (we had, and still have, a Xerox 3700,
but i don't count that as a usable printer!)  i still remember
the first page of TeX output coming out on the LJ II... <sigh>

the DVI driver i used was Nelson Beebe's DVIJEP, which i had to modify
slightly to cope with the minor differences between the way a LaserJet
Plus and a II take downloaded fonts.  however, later updates which
Nelson made to DVIJEP mean that it can be used to drive either a Plus
or a II; i've printed output from version 2.10 of DVIJEP on the same
LJ II printer.

we first ran the LJ plugged into a terminal port (TXD0:, in this case)
on the back of the VAX 750.  to set that up, i used the following
command while logged in as SYSTEM:

$       SET TERMINAL TXD0:/PERM/NOBROADCAST/NOTYPEAHEAD/NOWRAP/SPEED=9600-
/NOMODEM/WIDTH=80/PAGE=0/DEVICE=UNKNOWN/EIGHTBIT/NOSCOPE/PASTHRU

setting /EIGHTBIT and /PASTHRU is very important, since the font
download data will otherwise be corrupted.  then, if i remember
rightly, i could get the output to the printer by simply copying the
DVIJEP output file to TXD0:.  the next step was to define a queue so
the output could be spooled using the PRINT command, which was done using:

$       INITIALIZE/QUEUE/OWNER=[OPERATORS]/DEFAULT=NOFLAG/ENABLE-
/TERM/PROTECTION=(SYSTEM:E,OWNER:D,GROUP:R,WORLD:WR)/on=TXD0: LASERJET

we later called the queue CC_LJ2, and here's its current setup:

$ show queue cc_lj2/all/full
Printer queue CC_LJ2, stopped, on VAXA::NETPR$CC_LJ2, mounted form
LJ2TEX 
(stock=SS01)
<Hewlett-Packard LaserJet II printer>
    /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /BLOCK_LIMIT=500 /DEFAULT=(FEED,FLAG,
    FORM=LJ2TEX (stock=SS01)) /LIBRARY=CCCDEVCTL /OWNER=[OPERATORS] 
    /PROCESSOR=NETSYMB /PROTECTION=(S:E,O:ED,G:R,W:RW)

we defined a form LJ2TEX for sending TeX output to the queue, so that
system banner pages would be correctly printed:

$ show queue/form lj2tex/all/full
Form name                            Number   Description
- -------                            ------   -----------
LJ2TEX (stock=SS01)                     511   A4 white XEROX paper
    /LENGTH=70 /SETUP=(LJ2TEX) /STOCK=SS01 /WIDTH=93


things have changed a bit since i did this.  there's now a different
print symbiont, NETSYMB, which can drive remote printers connected to
PAD ports, for example.  if you need more info on this, i can direct
you to a colleague who is more involved in VMS stuff than myself.

dave osborne

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From: Sebastian Rahtz <spqr@uk.ac.soton.ecs>
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 89 15:22:26 BST
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In-Reply-To: David Osborne's message of Sat, 07 Oct 89 13:01:49 BST <7729.623764909@clan>
Subject: HP LaserJet II drivers? 

hey! good stuff! thats the sort of material that will get these people
off my back. thanks.

i also noted a new dvi2lj announced in the last UK TeX. I'll give them
that too, and they can go away and play

sebastian

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In-Reply-To: ABBOTTP@uk.ac.aston.kirk's message of Sat,  7 OCT 89 09:40:05 GMT <26144.8910070845@hilliard.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Subject: dvitps

   From: N.Chapman@uk.ac.ucl.cs

   is the dvitps system, described by stephan v. bechtolsheim in tugboat 10(1)
   available in the archive?  i am reluctant to send him $110, but the ftp
   on this machine doesn't know about the address he gives
   (csseq.tamu.edu).
hold your horses for a short while. a) he has changed machines, and b)
the software doesn't seem to be on his new machine yet. I got a copy
from somewhere (june.washington, I think), but I recommend waiting
until he releases a new version imminently which will support A4
paper, instead of just legal or US letter as before. if you want to
get the current version in a hurry, you can FTP it from my machine;
otherwise I will put a copy at Aston when Stephan releases his
revision. There are a few things in dvitps you won't find elsewhere,
but I'd say that the vast majority of the features are also found in
dvitops, which is much smaller and easier to deal with.

Sebastian Rahtz

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From: Steve_Tinney@edu.umich.cc.um
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Is it possible to get stuff from the Aston archive from the USA?
If so, could you send me your (probably standard) instructions on how?
Thanks, Steve Tinney.

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Editor - Details can be found elsewhere in this issue.
 
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Via: UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS; Sat, 7 Oct 89  18:43 BST
Date:		Sat,  7 OCT 89 18:35:24 BST
From:		TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS
Subject:        Installing DOSTeX v2.93a
Sender:         JANET"TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS" <TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS>
Message-Id:     <0000102F_000684A8.0092BEBA1DF8E0C0$12_3@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS>
Acknowledge-to: RMCS TeX Account
Originally-to:  CBS%UK.AC.CITY::SD385
Originally-from:TEX          "RMCS TeX Account"
Mailer:         Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989)

There was indeed a problem with the DosTeX that I loaded onto the Aston
archive --- for some reason, all of the files within the ZIP files have
acquired an extra 2 bytes !!   I can't explain how, but I can tell you that
I've rebuilt the files and sent the new versions to Aston.  I have also 
downloaded, decoded and extracted the files successfully.  

Sorry about that!
			Niel Kempson
			(pp Aston archive group)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ JANET:     tex@uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs                                     +
+ BITNET:    tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@ukacrl                              +
+ INTERNET:  tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk                  +
+ Smail:     School of Electrical Engineering & Science, Royal Military   +
+            College of Science, Shrivenham, SWINDON SN6 8LA, U.K.        +
+ Phone:     Swindon (0793) 785687 (UK), +44-793-785687 (International)   +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Via: UK.AC.UKC; Mon, 9 Oct 89   9:35 GMT
Received: from a.gec-epl.co.uk by kestrel.Ukc.AC.UK   via PSS (UKC CAMEL FTP)
           id aa05498; 9 Oct 89 9:33 BST
Original-Via:   SUNFS;  Mon, 9 Oct 89 09:21     (V30 at UK.CO.GEC-EPL)
From: Don_Ward@uk.co.gec-epl
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 89 09:22:29 BST
Subject: Re: Flush right for text
Sender: Don_Ward%uk.co.gec-epl%sunfs@uk.co.gec-epl.a

On page 106 of the TeXbook (6th printing 1986) there is a macro called
\signed which seems to do almost exactly what you want.  You didn't
say whether you were using LaTeX or just TeX; I guess you'll have to
experiment if the former. Hope this helps.

Don Ward
Systems Design Division
GEC Electrical Projects Ltd             Email: Don_Ward@gec-epl.co.uk
Boughton Road, Rugby, CV21 1BU UK.      Tel:   (+44 788  or 0788) 542144

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Editor - Don Hosek also pointed out the same fact. Mike Piff typed in the
text as reproduced here. Thanks to all the others as well.


Peter,

The left-and-right-justified trick is solved in The TeXBook, p106.

\def\leftrt#1#2{{\par\noindent #1\unskip\nobreak\hfil\penalty50\hskip2em\hbox{}%
   \nobreak\hfil #2 \parfillskip=0pt \finalhyphendemerits=0 \par}}

Adjust the 2em skip to suit yourself!

Mike Piff.

Phil Taylor suggests

Peter Abbott asked for a dyadic macro which would set the first parameter 
left-justified and the second parameter right justified.  The two parameters
should form a single paragraph, and any slop in the paragraph is to be taken
up between the two parameters.

\def \leftrightpar #1#2%
{\setbox 0 = \vbox
 {\parskip = 0 pt \parindent = 0 pt \parfillskip = 0 pt
  #1\hfil\penalty0\hbox{}\hfil#2\par
 }%
 \unvbox 0
}

\let \lr = \leftrightpar
\lr {One}{Two}
\lr {This is the first parameter, which is quite long}%
    {and this is the second parameter, which is also quite long}
\lr {Now we get to the really tricky bit, which is where the first parameter}%
    {is so long that there really isn't room for the second parameter to fit}
\end

					Philip Taylor
			    Royal Holloway and Bedford New College.

From: jg@uk.ac.oxford.prg
Message-Id: <8910121536.AA07332@uk.ac.oxford.prg.client12>
Subject: Flush right for text

You could try putting the second parameter in a box, then it won't be broken.
Or you could try changing all the spaces to ~'s somehow (not at all sure how
you'd do it, though) - the advantage of this method is that the spaces will 
stretch by the same amount as the spaces in the first argument.

*-----------------------------------------------------------------------------*
|  Jeremy Gibbons (jg@ox.prg)  Programming Research Group, Oxford University  |
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------------*
 
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Via: UK.AC.POLY-EAST-LONDON; Mon, 9 Oct 89   9:54 BST
Date:     Mon, 09 Oct 89 09:52:51 GMT
From:     A42JR@UK.AC.NE-LONDON-POLY
Subject:  DINA4.STY

Thanks to  the  three  correspondents  who  sent  me  information  about
DINA4.STY.   It  would  appear to be simply the DIN (Deutches Industries
Norm) A4 paper size.  If you have DINA4 specified, first try  the  usual
A4 style option.

I had a fairly substantial version sent from JG@UK.oxford.prg which  I'm
sure   can   be   sent   to   others   who  need  it.   Thanks  also  to
GH@lancaster.physics.vax1 and  Erich  Neuwirth  (A4433DAB@EARN.AWIUNI11)
who also sent helpful information.

John Rostron A42JR@PEL
                                      
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Via: UK.AC.POLY-EAST-LONDON; Mon, 9 Oct 89   9:57 BST
Date:     Mon, 09 Oct 89 09:54:40 GMT
From:     A42JR@UK.AC.NE-LONDON-POLY
Subject:  UKTeX users group

I recently received an invitation to join the UKTeX Users Group. This
message included no information about the benefits of belonging. What are
we to get for our money? How will membership of this relate (if at all) to
membership of TUG? The proposed group was discussed at the meeting at the LSE
and a steering committee elected. Presumably they have come up with some
aims and objectives to tempt us into parting with out cash. What are they?

***************************************************************************
Editor - At the meeting on Wednesday october 11 here at Aston Malcolm Clark
answered this question. Malcolm is the Chairman of the UKTUG and no doubt will
respond when he read this.

***************************************************************************

---------------------------------

Via: UK.AC.SHEFFIELD.PRIMEA; Mon, 9 Oct 89  12:50 BST
Date:         Mon, 09 Oct 89 12:50:40
From:         Mike Piff  <PM1MJP @ UK.AC.SHEFFIELD.PRIMEA>
Subject:      Empty parameters to macros

Roger Gawley required a check whether a parameter to a macro is `empty'.

Here is the version of \length that returns 0 or 1, but it will not help you;
see the four examples included.
A macro to check if, after expansion, a parameter was just a sequence of  glue,
kerns,  penalties, empty \hboxes and \vboxes nested arbitrarily deeply ( \hbox{
\hbox{ \penalty200} } ), would, I think, be very time consuming.

Martin Ward's solution

   \catcode`@=11

   \def\trouble#1{%
   \message{ CHECKING ``#1'': }%
   \checktrouble#1\@mark\end
   }

   \def\checktrouble#1#2\end{\ifx#1\@mark
   \message{EMPTY. }%
   \else
   \message{NOT EMPTY. }%
   \fi
   }

does not work either, as it fails under the same conditions, namely, when a
few space tokens, penalties, and other `invisibles' creep in!


\documentstyle{book}
\makeatletter
\newcount\Length
\def\length#1{{\global\Length=0 \getlength#1\@@@nd}}
\def\ignore#1\@@@nd{}
\def\getlength#1{\ifx#1\@@@nd \let\next\relax
   \else\global\Length=1 \let\next\ignore\fi\next}

\def\Space{ }

\length{}\showthe\Length
\length{ }\showthe\Length
\length{ { } }\showthe\Length% you would like these to return 0!!
\length{\Space}\showthe\Length
\makeatother



\begin{document}
\end{document}

Mike Piff

- ----
From:  Dr M. J. Piff,
       Department of Pure Mathematics, University of Sheffield,
       The Hicks Building, Hounsfield Road, SHEFFIELD S3 7RH, England.
       Telephone SHEFFIELD(0742) 768555 Extension 4431.
       JANET address: PM1MJP@UK.AC.SHEF.PA  or PM1MJP@UK.AC.SHEF.IBM
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Via: UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS; Mon, 9 Oct 89  12:51 BST
Date:		Mon,  9 OCT 89 12:20:35 BST
From:		TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS
Subject:        Access to the European TeXserver at Aston
Sender:         JANET"TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS" <TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS>
Message-Id:     <00001212_000698C0.0092C018167573E0$24_2@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS>
Acknowledge-to: RMCS TeX Account
Originally-to:  TEXHAX
Originally-from:TEX          "RMCS TeX Account"
Mailer:         Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989)

In TeXhax V89 #89, instructions for accessing the Clarkson repository are 
reproduced, and read, in part, as under:

>4) Keepers of Slave Repositories of the LaTeX Style Collection 
>
>UK users: Aston University maintains a TeX archive covering all aspects of
>TeX/LaTeX/Metafont and ancilliary software. UKTeX (like TeXhax) digests are
>distributed from Aston. For users with Colour book software `FTP'
>access is available, for all users mail access is available. Send enquires in
>the first instance to info-tex@uk.ac.aston (via internet use
>pabbott@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk). 

To save Peter Abbott having to pass on all of these messages to one of the
archivists, and for that person (namely myself) having to tell lots of
enquirers how to use the mail server at Aston, I'll say it here! 

Send an e-mail message to TEXSERVER@UK.AC.ASTON.TEX (I leave it to your 
ingenuity to reach Janet, but some hints appear in the examples) which 
contains the following (without the leading four spaces):

    any number of lines of rubbish (such as 
    mailer headers) you wish (or have) to insert
    --- a line starting with at least three hyphens, rest of line ignored
    yourname%yoursite@relay
    help

The word HELP (and everything may appear in upper- or lower-case, except of 
course any case-sensitive usernames) may optionally be followed by various 
language qualifiers: I cannot quote them all here, but I do know that it 
supports /ENGLISH, /FRANCAIS, /DEUTSCH, /NEDERLANDS, /NORSK, /DANSK, /ITALIANO,
/SWEDISH (don't ask me why this isn't in Swedish).  These qualifiers may 
be written instead as the English name for the language, as synonyms.  The 
subject, if included, is ignored by the TeXserver mailer.

Now the only problem is the `yourname%yoursite@relay' --- for users directly 
connected on Janet, then this reduces to yourname@yoursite, in normal NRS 
format.  

JANET
*****

The problem is trivial.  Note that partial domain routing can be used, so 
users on the UK.AC part of the network can omit the `uk.ac.' from "yoursite".

Example:
    To: texserver@uk.ac.aston.tex
    Subject: Rubbish
    ---
    rmcs_tex@aston.kirk
    HELP

BITNET/EARN
***********

Bitnet/Earn and some Canadian users connect to Janet via BITNET.UKACRL, and for
these sites the return relay is EARN-RELAY.  So Bitnet user HANS on
BITNET.D123456 (I hope that all addresses I use here *are* fictitious) would
give his return path as `hans%bitnet.d123456@earn-relay'.   Many Bitnet sites 
now have intelligent mailers which can interpret a Janet address if presented 
in little-endian format, so you can send to `texserver@tex.aston.ac.uk'; if 
your mailer cannot handle this, you'll have to specify the routing via UKACRL, 
as below.

The domain names BITNET. and EARN. are interchangeable, so don't worry about 
this: earn-relay always seems to find the right site eventually!  Note however 
that earn-relay, being an IBM machine, applies some unwanted character 
tranliterations and is also upset by source lines exceeding 80 characters or 
periods in column one.

Example:
    To: texserver%uk.ac.aston.tex@UKACRL
    Subject: Rubbish
    ---
    hans%bitnet.d123456@earn-relay
    HELP /DEUTSCH

INTERNET
********

Internet sites have to route back through nsfnet-relay, and although that 
relay is quite clever, it is preferable to reorder the sitename into big-
endian form, so user MARY at AAA.BBB.EDU would specify herself as 
`mary%edu.bbb.aaa@nsfnet-relay'.  If your sitename is unknown to nsfnet-relay, 
you may need to specify some intermediate node, in the ordering understood by 
that node.

Example:
    To: texserver%uk.ac.aston.tex%nsfnet-relay.ac.uk@aaa.bbb.edu
    Subject: Rubbish
    ---
    mary%ws1.eng.bbb.edu%edu.bbb.aaa@nsfnet-relay
    HELP

EAN/X.400
*********

Sites connecting to the UK through ean-relay (such as OZ, NZ and X400) route 
back the same way, so user BRUCE at OZ.BONDAI.BEACH would route back as
`bruce%oz.bondai.beach@ean-relay'.

Example:
    To: texserver%uk.ac.aston.tex@munnari.mu.au
    Subject: Rubbish
    ---
    bruce%oz.bondai.beach@ean-relay
    HELP /STRINE

(Sorry, we haven't *really* got a /STRINE version of the help --- you'll just 
have to have the default!)

UUCP
****

The only *major* grouping left is the UUCP sites. These have to route out of
the UK through UK.AC.UKC.  UKC (University of Kent at Canterbury) knows about
the world maps for uucp sites, so genereally speaking it will be possible to
specify your return path as `name%uucp.yoursite@ukc'.  However, if UKC doesn't 
have your site in its world map, you may need to specify an intermediate relay 
which *is* known to UKC, thus: `name%yoursite%uucp.othersite@ukc'.  If you
*must* use the `pling' form, it has to be written enclosed within double 
quotes, like this: `"othersite!yoursite!name"@ukc'.  UUCP sites can usually 
route using standard little-endian format to UK sites, as in the example; 
those that can't will send the message to `...!ukc!aston!texserver'.

Example:
    To: texserver@tex.aston.ac.uk
    Subject: Rubbish
    ---
    name%yoursite%uucp.othersite@ukc
    HELP

UUCP sites can also use the earn-relay site, or an internet routing via 
uunet.uu.net, which both understand the domain uucp and route via  gateways in 
the USA --- don't use this routing if `mcvax' appears within the chain, because
the message will then cross the Atlantic twice!  Therefore, you could specify 
`name%uucp.site@earn-relay' or `name%site.uucp%net.uu.uunet@nsfnet-relay'.

(You can check whether your site appears in UKC's world map by sending a 
message to `...!ukc!netdir' with a subject line consisting of the name of your 
site (without the `uucp.').  You'll be mailed in return a message giving 
details of your site, or an error message if you are unknown to UKC.)


If all else fails
*****************

Anybody having difficulty is welcome to contact me: just make your subject 
line incorporate the words `help wanted' (with one single intervening space)
and I'll try to work out your reverse path from whatever magic caballistic 
symbols the CBS mailer shows me.  But before you do that, check the format of 
your outgoing message: *did* you remember the three hyphens, and the return 
address on the NEXT line, with HELP on the one after that?

                               Brian {Hamilton Kelly}

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ JANET:     rmcs_tex@uk.ac.aston.kirk                                    +
+ BITNET:    rmcs_tex%uk.ac.aston.kirk@ac.uk                              +
+ INTERNET:  rmcs_tex%uk.ac.aston.kirk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk                 +
+ Smail:     School of Electrical Engineering & Science, Royal Military   +
+            College of Science, Shrivenham, SWINDON SN6 8LA, U.K.        +
+ Phone:     Swindon (0793) 785252 (UK), +44-793-785252 (International)   +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

---------------------------------

Via: UK.AC.RUTHERFORD.STARLINK; Mon, 9 Oct 89  13:16 BST
Date:           Mon, 9 Oct 89  13:15 GMT
From:           David Terrett <DLT@UK.AC.RUTHERFORD.STARLINK>
Subject:        Problems installing DosTeX 2.93a

  I encountered the same problems as David Sheryn when installing DosTeX but
  I was able to hack my way round them. The root of the problem seems to be
  that when the files have been unpacked from the ZIP files they are almost
  all a few bytes larger than the sizes given in the documentation - hence
  the problem with getting the files onto the 7th disk. Fortunately the
  installation program doesn't try to be too clever and it is possible to
  shuffle the files around and get them onto seven disks.

  The extra bytes on the end of the files don't matter when unpacking the
  ARC files except when it comes to the file containing GFTODVI.EXE. The ARC
  file is created by concatenating MFWARE.1, MFWARE.2 and MFWARE.3 and so
  you end up with extra bytes in the middle of the ARC file which is of
  course disastrous. I was able to reconstruct a good copy of the ARC file
  by coping MFWARE.1 and MFWARE.2 onto a fresh floppy and then editing the
  directory with debug to set the file sizes their correct values.

  Having overcome that hurdle every thing works splendidly except for the
  Epson dvi program which unfortunately appears to have a bug in its
  calculation of vertical dimensions. Individual characters are the correct
  size but the vertical spacing is stretched by (I think) the ratio of the
  Epson's vertical and horizontal resolution.  Also the driver constructs
  the top and bottom halves of the page bit map in separate passes of the
  DVI page and the two halves overlap by a couple of millimetres.

  How do I go about reporting (and I hope getting a fix for) this problem;
  should I simple write to the author or should it be reported by whoever I
  got my copy from (ie. the TeX archive) ?

  David Terrett

---------------------------------

Via: UK.AC.HERIOT-WATT.CLUSTER; Mon, 9 Oct 89  14:10 BST
Date:           Mon, 9 Oct 89  14:07 BST
From:           Sandy Yates <CHEAJY@UK.AC.HERIOT-WATT.VAXB>
Subject:        TEX server


Can you help me.
I am writing my doctoral thesis soon and I wanted to use the LATEX present it.
Can you tell me if anyone has produced a "THESIS.STY" that will do this.
SUTHESIS.STY and MITTHESIS.STY are not correct for the British theses.
Can you help?
		Thank you,
			  Sandy

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Via: UK.AC.HERIOT-WATT.CS; Tue, 10 Oct 89  15:16 BST
From: Peter King <pjbk@uk.ac.hw.cs>
Message-Id: <4784.8910101333@brahma.cs.hw.ac.uk>
Subject: Apple Laserwriter Drivers
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 89 14:33:10 BST
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.2 PL11]


Yesterday, more from curiosity than need, I ran testpage.tex (which
comes with LaTeX) through latex, and then printed it on our Apple
Laserwiter Plus.

The reuslts surprised me.  I used dvialw, dvi2ps, and dvitops to
convert the dvi file to Postscript.  Each driver positioned the frame
in a different position on the page!
One can live with that, since all the drivers give one the power to
displace the 
image on the page.  More worrying was the fact that the frame which is supposed
to be 6.5 inches x 9 inches was, when measured (with a ruler, nothing fancy),
6.58 inches by 8.94 inches.

Since all three drivers give the same size frame, it looks as if the bug is in
one of three places
	a) the Postscript interpreter in the LW
	b) TFM files (seems unlikely since it is presumably rules
			that are being drawn)
	c) the mechanics of the LW

None of these seems very likely -- has anyone else tried this test?

Peter King, Computer Science Department	JANET:	pjbk@uk.ac.hw.cs
  Heriot-Watt University		ARPA:	pjbk@cs.hw.ac.uk
  79 Grassmarket, Edinburgh EH1 2HJ	or	pjbk%cs.hw.ac.uk@ucl-cs
Phone: (+44) 31 225 6465 Ext. 555	UUCP:	..!ukc!cs.hw.ac.uk!pjbk

---------------------------------

Via: UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS; Tue, 10 Oct 89  16:28 BST
Date:		Tue, 10 OCT 89 16:28:44 BST
From:		TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS
Subject:        * Announcing Weave V3.0-2 for Vax/VMS *
Sender:         JANET"TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS" <TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS>
Message-Id:     <000013E4_001A9490.0092C103ED7842A0$11_3@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS>
Acknowledge-to: RMCS TeX Account
Originally-to:  UKTEX
Originally-from:TEX          "RMCS TeX Account"
Mailer:         Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989)


The directory [TEX-ARCHIVE.SRC.TEXWARE] now contains new versions of 
WEAVE.WEB and WEAVE.VMS-CH.  The WEB is the latest V3 from Knuth; the 
change file, as well as porting this to VMS corrects two bugs in Weave:

1) When generating the .TEX output, Weave wraps lines that exceed 80 
   characters: however, it makes no attempt to place a % in front of the 
   continuation line when the previous line formed a comment in the TeX 
   part of the WEB.

2) A number of users have reported that multiple invocations of WEB module 
   within another lead to multiple identical cross-references to that 
   module in the trailer of the woven output for the referenced module, and 
   in the index.  This version of the change file reduces these to a single
   cross-reference.

   N.B. This behaviour is regarded as a feature rather than a bug, and some 
   users may find it useful to have these multiple cross-references.  It 
   would be better if the woven output said:
     ``This module is used in section 20 (3 times).''
   rather than:
     ``This module is used in section 20, 20 and 20.''
   but I haven't yet worked out how to do that!

   Users who wish to preserve the original behaviour can remove the 
   relevant change from the change file: the latter is annotated to 
   facilitate location of this change.

What to do
**********
    Transfer (using FTP or the TeXserver mailer) the file
[TEX-ARCHIVE.SRC.TEXWARE]00README.TXT

                               Brian {Hamilton Kelly}

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ JANET:     tex@uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs                                     +
+ BITNET:    tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@ac.uk                               +
+ INTERNET:  tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk                  +
+ Smail:     School of Electrical Engineering & Science, Royal Military   +
+            College of Science, Shrivenham, SWINDON SN6 8LA, U.K.        +
+ Phone:     Swindon (0793) 785252 (UK), +44-793-785252 (International)   +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

---------------------------------

Via: UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS; Tue, 10 Oct 89  16:28 BST
Date:		Tue, 10 OCT 89 16:22:28 BST
From:		TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS
Subject:        * Announcing TeX V2.991-10 for Vax/VMS *
Sender:         JANET"TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS" <TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS>
Message-Id:     <000013E4_001B7D38.0092C1030D42CCA0$11_1@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS>
Acknowledge-to: RMCS TeX Account
Originally-to:  UKTEX
Originally-from:TEX          "RMCS TeX Account"
Mailer:         Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989)



    I have transferred a number of files to [TEX-ARCHIVE.SRC.TEX.VMS] which:

1)  Provide an enhanced editor interface to TeX under VMS, including 
    support for using the Language-sensitive Editor's (LSEdit's) REVIEW 
    mode and also permit use of any editing system when TeX reports an 
    error.
2)  Facilitate the generation of executables and format files for all 
    TeXware, through use of DEC's Module Management System (MMS).

    A longer TeXable note describing this system is in course of 
preparation for publication in TUGboat; this file will be added to the 
directory when it is ready.

    User's without MMS (even those who don't know how to use it) can still 
peruse the associated DESCRIP.MMS to glean hints on how to generate the 
executables and format files.  It would not be too difficult to adapt this 
description file into a Makefile.MAK for use with a VMS implementation of 
MAKE.

What to do
**********

Transfer, using FTP or the TeXserver mailer, the files:

    [TEX-ARCHIVE.SRC.TEX]00README.TXT
and [TEX-ARCHIVE.SRC.TEX.VMS]00README.TXT

                               Brian {Hamilton Kelly}

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ JANET:     tex@uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs                                     +
+ BITNET:    tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@ac.uk                               +
+ INTERNET:  tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk                  +
+ Smail:     School of Electrical Engineering & Science, Royal Military   +
+            College of Science, Shrivenham, SWINDON SN6 8LA, U.K.        +
+ Phone:     Swindon (0793) 785252 (UK), +44-793-785252 (International)   +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

---------------------------------

Via: UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS; Tue, 10 Oct 89  16:29 BST
Date:		Tue, 10 OCT 89 16:26:46 BST
From:		TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS
             Subject:        * Announcing Tangle V3 for Vax/VMS *
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The directory [TEX-ARCHIVE.SRC.TEXWARE] now contains new versions of 
TANGLE.WEB and TANGLE.VMS-CH for V3 of Tangle.

Please note that it will be necessary to use this version of Tangle to 
generate the new TeX V2.991-10 mentioned in another note.

A pre-tangled TANGLE.PAS and the .OBJ file derived from it are also 
included.

What to do
**********
    Transfer (using FTP or the TeXserver mailer) the file
[TEX-ARCHIVE.SRC.TEXWARE]00README.TXT

                               Brian {Hamilton Kelly}

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Via: UK.AC.POLY-EAST-LONDON; Tue, 10 Oct 89  16:37 BST
Date:     Tue, 10 Oct 89 16:35:42 GMT
From:     A42JR@UK.AC.NE-LONDON-POLY
Subject:  DviToPS on Primes

Has anyone implemented DviToPS on Prime computers?  On our Prime system
the C compiler  does  not  appear  to  support  three  of  the  required
functions.  I'm sure that I could emulate them if necessary, but I don't
want to reinvent the wheel.

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Via: UK.AC.QUEENS-BELFAST.CENTRE.VAX1; Tue, 10 Oct 89  21:58 BST
Date:		Tue, 10 OCT 89 21:51:55 BST
From:		EFIA4580@UK.AC.QUEENS-BELFAST.CENTRE.VAX1


                                                            Stephen Gilmore
                                             Department of Computer Science
                                          The Queen's University of Belfast
                                                           Belfast  BT7 1NN
                                                           Northern Ireland
                                                                10-OCT-1989

Dear VAX/VMS and LN03+ users,

I have recently moved to a new VAX/VMS installation which - unthinkably -
does not have TeX and LaTeX.  As an interim measure before obtaining TeX, 
I have been transferring LN3 files produced by the quite excellent RMCS 
DVItoLN03 to my new installation for printing on the LN03+.  Sadly, the  
LN3 files are scrambled when they are printed on the local LN03+.  

Can anyone help with a public domain version of a command file which
allows LN3 files to be printed on the LN03+.  It is possibly something 
as simple as deciding on the qualifiers to the VMS PRINT command but then 
again, perhaps not.

Thanks,

Stephen Gilmore

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Via: UK.AC.EDINBURGH.EMAS-A; Wed, 11 Oct 89  15:28 GMT
Date: 11 Oct 89  15:30:48 bst
From: G.Toal <ZESZ01@uk.ac.edinburgh.emas-a>
Subject: sb26tex - first impressions favourable
Message-ID: <11 Oct 89  15:30:48 bst  050763@EMAS-A>

I was pleased to find that sb26tex corrected the two main criticisms I
had against sb08tex -- it now has environmental variables for its various
paths, and it swaps memory to (ram)disk.  It now seems like a usable
alternative to pctex, which has to be a good thing.

As well as actually being able to run documents which it could not before,
its performance has improved dramatically: it ran a document which took
pctex 80 seconds in a marginally better 70 seconds.  This is a great
improvement over all other pd tex's for domestos which take two to three
times longer.

In brief, it looks good, it feels good, and I for one shall now be
recommending it to people wanting a quality implementation of tex for the pc.

That name again: sb26tex - it is in the aston archive.

Graham.

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From: David Budgen <db@uk.ac.stir.cs>
Subject: TeX on the Atari ST - some experiences

- -------
We recently obtained the version of TeX/LaTeX for the Atari ST that is
distributed (on four disks) from South West Software Library.  I
thought that others might like to know of our experiences so far.

I put this up on a 1040ST with two disk drives, and there were no
problems with installation.  I could run LaTeX, and preview the results 
without more than occasional minor references to the documentation.

Some particular points:
	* LaTeX is slow to load from a floppy disk (surprised?), but
	  once loaded it rattles through the .tex file at a good
	  rate (I suppose there is a 68000 in the thing).
	* The previewer program is quite neat, and the quality of the
	  display is adequate for proof reading, although I wouldn't
	  care to read too large a document in this way.  It is certainly
	  fast enough once initialised.
	* I can't comment on the printer drivers supplied, as these were
	  for a 9-pin Epson, and have interesting effects on the 24-pin
	  model available to me.
	* I have tried uploading the resulting .dvi files on to our UNIX
	  box via Kermit, but our dvips program sneered at them as lacking
	  in some way - given the ease of copying the source file anyway,
	  it isn't a problem that I intend to pursue very far.

I suspect that one could manage with a single double-sided disk drive,
but it would require some careful selection of disk contents.

David Budgen

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Via: UK.AC.OXFORD.VAX; Wed, 11 Oct 89  16:33 BST
Date:           Wed, 11 Oct 89  16:31 BST
From:           Harry Fearnley <HARRYF@UK.AC.OXFORD.VAX>
Subject:        Thesis styles, Latex ...

In response to recent postings by Dave lindsey (Aberdeen) and David Rhead 
(Nottingham) :

Below is a message that I received recently about the BLUTEX-L list.

Regards,
Harry

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Subj:	BluTeX History

Date:     Fri, 20 Jan 89 23:40:00 CST
Reply-To: BluTeX-L <BLUTEX-L@EARN.TAMVM1>
From:     J E PITTMAN <JEPTEX@EARN.TAMVENUS>
Subject:  BluTeX History

Let me start this year's discussions with a review of the history of BluTeX up
to this point.
 
The idea behind BluTeX started somewhere around April, 1988.  At that time I
was quite new to the TeX community and was very impressed with the
item-by-item quality of TeX output, yet appalled by the difficulty involved in
producing a high quality document.  In 1982-83, Blair Brenner, one of my
predecessors in the User Services Group, conceived and developed Blueline
SCRIPT.  Blueline is now one of our high demand packages, though I am pleased
to say that the demand has fallen considerably since the introduction of TeX
and now BluTeX to the Texas A&M campus.
 
I approached Roger Sorrells, the manager of the User Services Group, with the
idea of doing in TeX what Blair Brenner had done in SCRIPT six years ago.
Roger was hesitant to authorize the project because of the expense of
Blueline, which took approximately a year to develop and document.  We
compromised on a smaller project, which was the acquisition and review of the
available macro packages.
 
The best thesis package I was able to find was the LaTeX Thesis, which had
been generated by a series of students working under the direction of Drs.
Norman Naugle (Mathematics) and Pierce Cantrell (Electrical Engineering).
After reviewing their code and documentation, I decided that, first, the lack
of programmer's documention for LaTeX was crippling, and, second, that they
had failed to design for the entire university.  The Texas A&M Thesis Manual
states that a thesis should follow the style and format of a major journal in
the student's field.  This requirement creates a nightmare of complexity for
format designers, to such an extent that the LaTeX Thesis' designers were
attempting to introduce a generic format that would be accepted by all
departments.
 
Towards the end of May, the requirements for BluTeX were fairly well defined:
 
   1. It should follow the Thesis Manual without question or argument.
 
   2. It would be written in plain TeX, with provisions for use with AmSTeX.
 
   3. It should be built heavily upon Blueline SCRIPT, with ideas borrowed
      from the LaTeX Thesis, LaTeX, and TeXhax articles.
 
   4. It should be designed under the principles of structured programming,
      with the realization that, as a student, I will not be maintaining
      it forever.
 
   5. It should be targeted for colleges outside of Science and Engineering,
      with the belief that a software package that can appeal to students that
      do not normally use computers would also appeal to students that do,
      though the converse is frequently false.
 
My initial estimate was 1,000 lines of code and 3 months labor, which Roger
agreed to with some reluctance.  About a month and a half later, I released
BluTeX, version 1.0, which consisted of about 1,000 lines of TeX code.
 
Incidentally, the name ``BluTeX'' stems from a contraction of Blueline TeX.
 
About five students attended my short course on BluTeX that summer and started
using it for their work.  The consensus opinion that I received was that I had
solved the majority of their problems but that there was room for improvement.
I agreed, gathered their suggestions, and spent the rest of the summer working
on version 2.0.
 
In mid-September, I released version 2.0.  The line counts for the code and
the manual were well over 2,000 apiece and the effort involved in the manual
led me to the conclusion that lines of manual were as expensive as lines of
code.
 
Version 2.0 was highly successful.  Over the course of the fall semester, it
evolved upwards to version 2.09.  Most of the changes were minor bug patches,
addition of internal documentation to the code, and minor improvements.  Its
user community grew rapidly, though I do not have numerical statistics.
 
Towards the end of the fall semester, I established this discussion list for
the following purposes:
 
   1. Provide a forum for a discussion entitled ``What does a thesis look
      like?''  The purpose of this discussion is to, hopefully, determine what
      elements are common to all thesis formats and the bounds within which
      formats vary.
 
   2. Provide a forum for national (and international) discussions about the
      problem of typesetting a thesis in TeX.
 
   3. Provide a forum to discuss ideas, suggestions, and complaints about
      BluTeX.
 
   4. Provide a method for announcing changes to the code and distribution of
      same.  There are over 200 computers on campus, excluding micros and
      workstations, and upwards of half of them have TeX.
 
The discussion list stalled in December due to the service outage on TeXhax
which slowed the announcement of the list, so it is effectively beginning now.
There were also some delays in getting the code on-line.
 
During the Christmas break, I worked on version 2.1 -- which was installed
about a week ago.  It includes significant improvements in the output routine,
table and figure management techniques, and the reference citation macros.  It
undoubtably includes a new set of bugs, of which, three have been found and
corrected already.
 
That's the history through the end of 1988 plus early January, 1989.
 
My next major article will describe future directions and plans, after that
will be the articles describing Texas A&M's thesis format.
 
J E Pittman
User Services Group
Computing Services Center
Texas A&M University

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Via: UK.AC.HERIOT-WATT.CLUSTER; Thu, 12 Oct 89   8:33 BST
Date:           Thu, 12 Oct 89   8:30 BST
From:           Sandy Yates <CHEAJY@UK.AC.HERIOT-WATT.VAXB>
Subject:        THESIS.STY complying to BS4821:1972

Texserver,
	   Can you tell me if there is a LATEX style file that complies to
the British thesis (British Standard 4821: 1972) availible.

SUTHESIS.STY and MITTHESIS.STY are not correct.
			Thank you
				 Sandy

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Via: UK.AC.LEICESTER.VAX; Fri, 13 Oct 89   8:47 BST
Date:		Fri, 13 OCT 89 08:43:03 BST
From:		NOC_X@UK.AC.LEICESTER

Is there software which can be run on VAX or RML 'Nimbus'
to drive a QUME Crystal Print 'Publisher' printer from
DVI files?

Via: UK.AC.LEICESTER.VAX; Fri, 13 Oct 89   8:48 BST
Date:		Fri, 13 OCT 89 08:45:36 BST
From:		NOC_X@UK.AC.LEICESTER

Is there software for implementing TeX on RML 'Nimbus'
(or PC compatible) machines?

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