UKTeX V89 #43 Friday 8 December 1989
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LaTeX problem - lost text.
Alignments: where does TeX find the glue if none occurs ?
Sccs keywords in LaTeX
LaTeX style query
Editor Peter Abbott
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From: Dave Love <FX@UK.AC.DARESBURY.NNGA>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 89 15:07 GMT
Subject: Re: spiderweb
Message-Id: <01 DEC 1989 15:40:33 FX@UK.AC.DARESBURY.NNGA>
I didn't see the original request for spider for some reason.
The copy in the archive is a little out-of-date. There is a more recent
one which I can supply. It is UN*X-specific to some extent as BHK says,
but only really to the extent of requiring awk, & you can get the GNU
version of that (for MSDOS, even?). The major languages of interest
that currently have spider descriptions are C, C++, Ada, (G)awk,
PostScript as far as I know.
I have some experience of using it, which may be of interest. I have
actually coerced it into almost doing something it is explicitly not
supposed to do -- cope with fortran, or a dialect thereof. (The tangle
o/p needs some post-processing at present.) Although it is claimed that
you can produce a new web for an algol-like language in a few hours,
I'd say that was rather optimistic! It's an awful lot better than
starting from scratch, though. There are some language dependencies
involved, mainly in the tokenising parts e.g., insistence on double
quotes around strings. These are simple to hack, though. The main
difficulty is in understanding how the prettyprinting grammar works.
There are some undocumented #defines which you may need to check on if
building a web for a new language.
I have in hand producing a version that will be usable with LaTeX rather
than plain, but don't hold your breath.
Dave Love, SERC Daresbury Lab.
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From: RMCS_TEX "BHK and CNK (from RMCS)"
Subj: *** PKZIP 1.02 for MS-DOS available ***
Version 1.02 of the PKZIP archiving utility is available from the Aston
archive. Version 1.02 offers a new compression technique ("imploding") which
is more efficient than those offered by the previous version available at
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From: R.A.Reese@uk.ac.hull
Subject: LaTeX problem - lost text.
Message-Id: < 4 Dec 89 16:38:01 A1021A@UK.AC.HULL>
The following was found in TurboTeX version 2.0 on PC. This
describes itself as TeX 2.98 and LaTeX 2.09. Could other
people please check it on other systems?
\documentstyle{article} \nofiles
\begin{document}
This text illustrates a bug in LaTeX---the tabbing and typeface
commmands should be orthogonal, but seem to interfere and no
warning message is output.
The application is a sort of hanging paragraph, putting multiple
authors for a paper in a conference programme.
\begin{tabbing}
{\tt 09:15-10:30 }\ \= \hspace{3em}\= \hspace{1.8in}\=\kill
test
{\tt 17:00-18:00 } \>Registration\\
{\tt 18:00} \>Contributed papers.\\
\>\>{\em Dr I M First and}\\
\>\> \hspace{1em} {\em I Really-Didit}\>
This works.\\
\>\>{\em Dr I M First and\\
\>\> \hspace{1em} I Really-Didit}\>
This loses an author and a line.\\
\>\> Dr I M First and\\
\>\> \hspace{1em} I Really-Didit\>
These names are not emphasised.\\
{\tt 17:30 } \>Close of conference\\
\end{tabbing}
\end{document}
Allan Reese
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Date: Wed, 6 DEC 89 19:06:28 BST
From: CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA
Subject: Alignments: where does TeX find the glue if none occurs ?
Actually-to: <Info-TeX@ASTON>
Sender: JANET"CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA" <CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA>
Message-Id: <00002254_0006DA90.0092EDE4692F7500$117_13@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA>
Reply-to: Philip Taylor (RHBNC) <P.Taylor@Uk.Ac.Rhbnc.Vaxa>
Originally-to: $UK-TEX
Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.5 ( 13-OCT-1989 14:07:27 )
Whilst I was setting \haligns inside \valigns, I came across a strange
phenomenon whereby TeX failed to report an underfull box. Continually
simplifying my code led to the following:
\halign {#\cr
1\cr
12\cr
}
which TeX sets quite happily. My question is, "why ?". There is no
glue in the preamble, and no glue in the either of the two rows, yet
TeX quite happily pads out the "1" row until it is the same length as
the "12" row (the space is put {\it after} the "1"). Experiments suggest
that if TeX is given the slightest opportunity to avoid using this
non-existent glue, it will: try replacing the preamble with
\hskip 0 pt plus 1 sp#\cr
for example; the 1 sp stretches until all the padding occurs {\it before}
the "1". Non-stretchy glue, such as
\hskip 1 sp#\cr
doesn't help, however. So, where {\it is} TeX finding the mysterious glue
that it needs to pad out the "1" row in the first example ?
Philip Taylor
Royal Holloway and Bedford New College.
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Subject: Sccs keywords in LaTeX
Cc: judy@uucp.harwell
Date: Thu Dec 7 08:39:17 1989
From: judy@uucp.harwell
(This was bounced on the first try, with the following message:
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)
We are currently producing documentation in LaTeX for some of our software. In
order to be able to recognize when a particular version of a manual was produced,
I thought it would be easiest to plant the sccs modification date as part of
the titlepage information. This in itself is trivial enough, but how do I set
something up which allows me to run LaTeX on the documented whilst it is being
edited ? Since the sccs keywords are all "%?%" I can't think of an easy way
of handling this! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Judy Booth (judy%harwell.uucp@uk.ac.ukc)
Computer Science & Systems Division,
Harwell Laboratory,
Oxon.
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From: Jack Levy (on GEC 4190 Rim-B at UCL) <CCAAJRL@UK.AC.UCL.EUCLID>
Reply-to: Jack Levy <CCAAJRL@UK.AC.UCL.EUCLID>
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 89 14:34
Subject: LaTeX style query
Message-Id: <07 DEC 1989 14:35:52 CCAAJRL@UK.AC.UCL.EUCLID>
Comments: I've been trying to send this to info-tex, but without succsess.
Could you forward it from your end?
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From: Jack Levy (on GEC 4190 Rim-B at UCL) <CCAAJRL@UK.AC.UCL.EUCLID>
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 89 14:26
Subject: LaTeX style query
Message-Id: <07 DEC 1989 14:35:52 CCAAJRL@UK.AC.UCL.EUCLID>
Apologies for a naive query, which I'm sure has a simple answer.
I'm tring to design a page layout in LaTeX with a widish \marginparwidth
(about 2 in) and \textwidth around 4 in. The problem is that I would like
page headers or footers the full width of the page, covering both the
margin and the text, possibly including a full-width horizontal rule.
I've tried using \leftskip and \rightskip, which works except that I get
overfull hbox messages. I would also like to try full-width section
headers at some point, but I guess it's a similar problem. Can anyone help?
Jack Levy (UCL Computer Centre)
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