UKTeX V90 #04 Friday 9 February 1990 mf Formatting computer output in Latex ln03 driver source wanted? Extra maths TeX fonts Where can find $\ldots$ OzTeX future Amiga TeX - advice, please Editor Peter Abbott Once again I must apologise for a missed UKTeX. Last week we had a disk fault and the archive disk was lost. Since I use the same disc for the preparation and despatch of UKTeX I was unable to start looking at the messages until last Monday. Also I received a large number of error messages since the mail software could not find the files to send. Hopefully everything is now back to normal and there is an issue scheduled for next Friday. Latest TeXhax in the Archive is #15 Latest TeXmag in the Archive is V3N3 ------------------------- From: Sebastian P Q Rahtz Date: Fri, 26 Jan 90 10:59:19 gmt Message-Id: <21918.9001261059@manutius.ecs.soton.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <22568.9001251726@hilliard.ecs.soton.ac.uk> > UKTeX Bulletins seem to contain a mixture of queries, some > obviously meant for a general audience and others aimed specifically > at the archive support group. Would it not be better if the latter > were filtered out, or put in the bulletin with an answer? - I > presume the people closely involved with TeX support are sending > messages between themselves much more frequently than Bulletins. its all a question of manpower, isn't it. Who is to spend the time filtering the questions? Peter already does a lot of pre-parsing of material and getting answers from the archive group - uktex could be much fuller of questions! generally speaking, the intention is to include questions and answers that may be of general interest > There seems a need for a file on the archive called > "new users start here", since much of the traffic in the > bulletin describes updates ... but to what? this is a personal opinion, but I regard the archive's priority as getting the stuff available to people who already know TeX. Obviously if we had time, it would be great to support first-time users to a much greater extent, but I feel that this is a job better done by either institutional support or by commercial vendors. > dvi2lj works well with our Kyocera, but on a QMS in LJ+ mode > gave typewriter like characters which obviously did not fit > the font metric, so successive words overlapped. I'd blame your QMS...... but people do have problems with that driver. I use it with a Hewlett-Packard genuine LJII, and have no problems. Have you tried Beebe drivers? > with TurboTeX (Kinch computing). Is there now any consensus on > a simple way to drive a PC PostScript printer with the PostScript > fonts? consensuses, like standards, are not always a good thing.... but I tend to agree this situation is a message. I would recommend a new user to acquire dvitops for the PC, and add on Piet van Oostrum's system of LaTeX style-options for different font-families. one problem is that Knuth undoubtedly recommends the use of the new virtual font format to solve the TeX-PostScript encoding differences (he personally hacked Rokicki's dvips to do the job), so it may well be that the situation will change this year. The rewrite of LaTeX will also change things. aargh. Sebastian Rahtz ------------------------ Via: UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL; Mon, 29 Jan 90 13:08 GMT Via: UK.AC.DURHAM.EASBY; Mon, 29 Jan 90 13:04 GMT From: Martin Ward Date: Mon, 29 Jan 90 13:04:07 GMT Message-Id: <12119.9001291304@easby.durham.ac.uk> Has anyone successfully compiled Metafont (using Web-to-C) on a Sun3 using gcc? All my attempts lead to the following error when I attempt to load cmbase: ./inimf \&plain cmbase '\\dump' This is METAFONT, C Version 1.7 (INIMF) (/usr/local/gnu/tex/mf/inputs/cmbase.mf ! An expression can't begin with `;'. 0 ; l.604 rulepen:=pensquare; ? x Transcript written on cmbase.log. It compiles and works ok if I use the SUN C compiler (but I'd like to have the extra speed gcc gives). Martin. My ARPANET address is: martin%EASBY.DUR.AC.UK@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU OR: martin%uk.ac.dur.easby@nfsnet-relay.ac.uk UUCP:...!mcvax!ukc!easby!martin JANET: martin@uk.ac.dur.easby BITNET: martin%dur.easby@ac.uk ------------------------ Via: UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL; Mon, 29 Jan 90 14:04 GMT Via: UK.AC.EARN-RELAY; Mon, 29 Jan 90 14:00 GMT Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 9970; Mon, 29 Jan 90 14:00:08 GM Received: from FRCITL71(YANNIS) by UKACRL (Mailer X1.25) id 9663; Mon, 29 Jan 90 14:00:06 GM From: yannis@EARN.FRCITL71 Date: 01/29/90 1458.4 fwt Mon Subject: mf Dear M. Abbott, here are the error messages I got while trying to mf cmr10 and io: (please read a "sharp" sign instead of *, my keyboard has no sharp sign available...) mf Memory before allocation : 602506 Memory after allocation : 21832 This is MacMETAFONT, Version 1.4.1 (no base preloaded) cmr10 (cmr10.mf (cmbase.mf) (roman.mf (romanu.mf The letter A [65*** MPW Shell - MEGATEK 20+:MPW:Tools:mf aborted. Unable to swap in Shell segment. mf Memory before allocation : 600928 Memory after allocation : 217778 This is MacMETAFONT, Version 1.4.1 (no base preloaded) (io.mf The letter O [79*** MPW Shell - MEGATEK 20+:MPW:Tools:mf aborted. Unable to swap in tool segment. Also I get the error message "I can't read MF.POOL." everytime I run INIMF. Could you tell me what's wrong? I'm working on a Mac Plus, 20 Mega, is it perhaps a problem of RAM or could the floppie you send me be damaged by the post? My e-mail address is yannis -at frcitl71.bitnet Thank you very much for your help Sincerely yours, Yannis Haralambous ------------------------ Via: UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL; Mon, 29 Jan 90 17:00 GMT Via: UK.AC.OXFORD.VAX; Mon, 29 Jan 90 16:55 GMT Date: Mon, 29 Jan 90 16:55 GMT From: Jocelyn Paine Subject: Formatting computer output in Latex/subscription to UKTeX I wonder whether somebody could help with a Latex problem. It concerns formatting of computer output. I'm writing a book in which I need to include figures containing logs of annotated computer output and user input. The usual way to do this would be to use 'verbatim', putting a verbatim environment inside a 'figure' environment, and embedding the log inside that. However, I want to distinguish between output and input, by placing them in different typefaces. I can make my program mark the beginning and end of each line of output, by putting special characters before and after. So what I'd like is this kind of thing: \begin{log} \op{$} CALCULATE \op{:} 2 + 2 => \op{4 :} \op{:} 3 * 7 => \op{21 :} exit; \op{Bye.} \op{$} LOGOUT \end{log} where what's enclosed in \op{...} is to be italicised (say) to indicate that it's a prompt, or reply, or some other kind of output, and everything else is assumed to be input and left alone. For this to maintain column alignment, both typefaces will have to be non proportionally-spaced, as \tt is now. The example above didn't demonstrate annotation. I need this to comment on what the user and program are doing: \begin{log} \annotate{The dollar prompt shows we're talking to the operating system. Now, call the calculator program.} \op{$} CALCULATE \op{:} 2 + 2 => \op{4 :} \annotate{And the answer was 4, as you'd expect.} \op{:} 3 * 7 => \op{21 :} exit; \annotate{The user, thoroughly bored, returns to the joys of VMS.} \op{Bye.} \op{$} LOGOUT \end{log} I'd be very grateful for any suggestions. Incidentally, some of these logs will be long, and may need to split over several pages. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Jocelyn Paine + + + + JANET: popx@uk.ac.ox.vax + + BITNET: popx%uk.ac.ox.vax@ac.uk + + INTERNET: popx%uk.ac.ox.vax@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk + + UUCP: Please don't. Our site won't subscribe. + + Smail: Experimental Psychology Department, + South Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3UD, UK. + + Phone: Oxford (0865) 271444 (Messages only). + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------ Via: UK.AC.SOUTHAMPTON.MATHEMATICS; Mon, 29 Jan 90 19:40 GMT Received: from manutius.ecs.soton.ac.uk by hilliard.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Mon, 29 Jan 90 19:39:46 GMT From: Sebastian P Q Rahtz Date: Mon, 29 Jan 90 19:38:31 gmt Message-Id: <24911.9001291938@manutius.ecs.soton.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4659.9001291908@hilliard.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Subject: Item for UKTeX > > Has anyone successfully compiled Metafont (using Web-to-C) on a Sun3 using > gcc? All my attempts lead to the following error when I attempt to yes, I run a gcc-compiled Metafont on a Sun 3 and have done so for about 18 months. in fact, MF 1.9 will only compile using gcc at present. which gcc do you have? I am running 1.36. Sebastian ------------------------ Date: 29 Jan 90 19:36:42 gmt From: G.Toal @ uk.ac.edinburgh Subject: ln03 driver source wanted? Message-ID: <29 Jan 90 19:36:42 gmt 050348@EMAS-A> Hello friends, I've been asked to get a ln03 laser (not postscript) running on a machine which *isn't* vax/vms... I don't know much about ln03's except that they are Dec printers -- and I have a terrible suspicion that if I can find a driver for it, it will be highly VMS specific!? I'd be delighted if someone can prove me wrong :-) Could anyone who knows of the source (pref C, possibly Pascal) of an ln03 driver please mail me? (Or post a short note here if mail bounces which it often does) I can fetch files via janet ftp & arpa ftp, and by mail elsewhere. Many thanks, Graham Toal PS. In the dim & distant past I remember seeing postings about ln03s... Are they troublesome, even if you have a driver that works? Any tips would also be appreciated. ------------------------ Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 9767; Thu, 01 Feb 90 13:55:22 GM Received: from FRCITL71(YANNIS) by UKACRL (Mailer X1.25) id 5336; Thu, 01 Feb 90 13:55:11 GM From: yannis@EARN.FRCITL71 Date: 02/01/90 1454.0 fwt Thu Subject: to forwrd please MY SYSTEM DOESN'T ALLOWS ME TO JOIN PETER ABBOTT AT abbottp -at uk.ac.aston (on Janet) COULD YOU PLEASE FORWARD THIS MESSAGE ? THANK YOU VERY MUCH Dear M. Abbott, I don'n know if you have received my previous message, it seems that we have e-mail problems here in Lille... The problem I told you about on the phone, has been solved by using a IICx instead of a Mac-Plus.But I have some new questions: 1. The syntax for MAKEFONT is MAKEFONT+xxx.nnnGF+number, what does this number means ? 2. How can produce screen fonts for Textures (for the moment I don't see on the screen what I get, but I get it well printed...) 3. Which is the right mode_def for the Apple Laserwriter ? Thank you very much, I hope I don't take too much of your time (if I get MacMF really running I promise I will write a User Guide, so that future Users will not bother you with questions of the kind...) Yannis Haralambous ------------------------ Via: UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL; Mon, 5 Feb 90 17:21 GMT Via: UK.AC.YORK.VAXB; Mon, 5 Feb 90 17:18 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Feb 90 17:17 GMT From: MMD1@UK.AC.YORK.VAXB Subject: Extra maths TeX fonts Dear Peter, We have recently started using TeX on the University VAX. The University only has PlainTeX but we would like to use the extra maths fonts called msym7, msym10, msxm5, etc. It appears that these fonts are not available on our system and we wondered if you could help us. We know that these fonts are available on a Unix system (in Southampton) but we dont know of anyone who has them on a VAX. We would be grateful for any advice and look forward to hearing from you. Best wishes Maurice Dodson MMD1@UK.AC.YORK.VAXA Tel 0904-433098 Dept of Mathematics University of York ------------------------ Via: UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL; Tue, 6 Feb 90 14:50 GMT Via: UK.AC.UKC; Tue, 6 Feb 90 14:48 GMT Received: from eurotherm.co.uk by kestrel.Ukc.AC.UK with UUCP id aa23694; 6 Feb 90 14:03 GMT Received: from jackdaw.eurotherm.co.uk by heron.eurotherm.co.uk; Tue, 6 Feb 90 08:35:46 GMT From: Martin Tomes Date: Tue, 6 Feb 90 08:37:22 GMT Message-Id: <8836.9002060837@jackdaw.eurotherm.co.uk> Subject: Where can find $\ldots$ I am trying to set up TeX and so far I have got TeX, LaTeX and metafont working. I have downloaded dvi3ps from Aston and this also works well. What I would like to know is where can I get the font metric files for the builtin PostScript fonts for which there is a directory and Makefile but no tfm files? The documentation which comes with dvi3ps says: > - Adobe fonts and TeX fonts have very different coding convensions. > The above listed TFM files were already re-arranged to meet TeX > convension. In a standard TeX distribution, one can also find > many other TFM files for Adobe fonts (such as Times-Roman.tfm). > These are not hacked yet. I have installed the tfm files which came in the tex82 tape. Although the basic character spacing looks OK the ligatures are not printed at all. How do I persuade TeX to output character codes which use the ligatures which are in the PostScript character set and individual characters where they are not? Martin Tomes Janet: mt00@uk.co.eurotherm | Eurotherm Limited, Faraday Close, Internet: mt00@eurotherm.co.uk | Durrington, Worthing, W.Sussex, England. UUCP: {ukc,uunet}!etherm!mt00 | Phone: +44 903 68500 Fax: +44 903 65982 ------------------------ Via: UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL; Wed, 7 Feb 90 13:26 GMT Via: UK.AC.EARN-RELAY; Wed, 7 Feb 90 13:23 GMT Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 5188; Wed, 07 Feb 90 13:10:51 GM Received: from VM1.EARN-ULG.AC.BE by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 7827; Wed, 07 Feb 90 13:10:36 G Received: by BLIULG11 (Mailer R2.05) id 1031; Wed, 07 Feb 90 14:10:50 +0100 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 90 14:02:28 +0100 From: SCHNEIDERS Jean-Pierre Subject: OzTeX future Dear Sir, I am interested in producing a better version of OzTeX for use at my University. I have already a prototype version which supports printing on non PostScript devices (HP DeskWriter) and I would like to continue the work on this program during my spare time. Could you tell me if other people are interested in such a work or there are already some programmers working on the subject. Thanking You beforehand for your answer, I remain sincerely Yours, Jean-Pierre Schneiders Charge de Recherches F.N.R.S. Liege University Avenue des Tilleuls, 15 B4000 LIEGE BELGIUM U219404 at BLIULG11.BITNET ------------------------ Via: UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL; Thu, 8 Feb 90 8:31 GMT Via: UK.AC.SOUTHAMPTON.MATHEMATICS; Thu, 8 Feb 90 8:31 GMT Received: from manutius.ecs.soton.ac.uk by hilliard.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Wed, 7 Feb 90 18:07:19 GMT From: Sebastian Rahtz Date: Wed, 7 Feb 90 18:04:36 gmt Message-Id: <8111.9002071804@manutius.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Subject: Amiga TeX - advice, please any Amiga people out there? It would be nice to have some advice for the following TeXer as to the current best bargain/source for an Amiga TeX setup. Sadly, we don't have a copy at Aston, so we cant send him anything. > From: CNAP01@UK.AC.STRATHCLYDE.VAXA > I was making enquiries with Lancs.pdsoft about getting TeX for the > Amiga and was told that you keep the archives in Aston. I wonder if > it would be possible to send me all of them. I would appreciate > this very much. > Stuart C.Smith Sebastian Rahtz pp aston archive ------------------------ Via: UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL; Thu, 8 Feb 90 13:43 GMT Via: [000052500001.SPCP.FTP.MAIL.ISOCEPT]; Thu, 8 Feb 90 13:42 GMT Date: Thu, 08 Feb 90 13:37:24 BST From: ST3526059 @ UK.AC.OXFORD-POLY.PRIME-A Reply address:- ST3526059@OXPOLY.A Dear Mr Abbott, Please could you help me with some problems that I'm having with my dow nloaded version of DosTex. Firstly, the screen previewer called DVI2HERC.EXE that comes with it only seems to be able to open a maximum of 14 font files when being run no matter how large the 'files' or 'buffers' statement in my CONFIG.SYS file. As an example, I altered the SAMPLE.TEX file to include a number of displayed formulas which require a fair number of fonts to display. This is rather worrying, having such a file limit as I intend to use LaTex to process alot of mathematical expressions. Secondly, the epson printer driver also doesn't like it when I include a number of maths formulas ( I mean only four or five which isn't many) . When DVIEPS.EXE is running it usually crashes by saying that it couldn't allocate a number of words of raster space or that it couldn't allocate memory to loadchar(x) where x is an integer, after which the message 'cannot execute COMMAND system halted' appears, thereby necessitating CTRL-ALT-DEL to re-boot. Not allowing fonts to be preloaded using the relevant switch doesn't improve matters for either DVIEPS.EXE or DVI2HERC.EXE, infact not allowing fonts to be preloaded with DVI2HERC.EXE makes the screen draw scattered lines across the top of the screen whilst previewing text. Also with DVIEPS.EXE should it accept an input file and process it then usually halts the system after closing the last ']' and again I have to use CTRL-ALT-DEL to get out of it. However should the document be short ie, about 1 page, then it processes without a problem printing a [OK] messge after completion. The only way around it that I can think of is by DVIEPS'ing every page of the dvi file separately which is very tedious and time consuming and doesn't always work (surprise, surprise!!). It seems as if the two programs in question don't free-up any memory after finishing a page, and thats without any cross-referencing or BIBTEX commands. DVIEPS.EXE, also seems to have another bug which is only noticable on the printed text. What happens is that at the same physical position on every page DVIEPS.EXE fails to put a space between two lines resulting in what looks like one line printed halfway over another. If you could see if any of your colleagues involved with TeX could help me I'd be very grateful indeed as I'm going out of my mind trying to figure out what to do. Also if these are widely recognised bugs then could you tell me of any other previewers and espon printer drivers availble on the archive that will run under ms-dos. The only previewer that I've seen is called DVIEW but unfortunately takes 3MB of disk space which I can't spare. Do you know of any dvi to postscript drivers that are suitable for ms-dos??? As a last note LaTex processed all input TEX files without any problems. My system details are as follows:- 386 20MHz PC with 575K of free memory although I'll be adding another 1MB shortly. All enviroment 'SET' commands have be implemented in my AUTOEXEC.BAT file correclty. Many thanks for your help!!! Paul Gale ------------------------ !! !! Files of interest !! [tex-archive]000aston.readme [tex-archive]000directory.list !! [tex-archive]000directory_dates.list [tex-archive]000directory.size !! [tex-archive]000last30days.files !! !! Editor - I have a tape labelled TeX 2.99 LaTeX 2.09 Metafont 1.7 !! Unix 4.2/3BSD & System V. Tar 1600 bpi blocked 20 1 file dated !! 25 July 1989 (from washington.edu). !! !! FTP access site uk.ac.aston.tex !! username public !! password public !! !! I have the facility to copy this tape for anyone who sends the following !! 1 2400 tape with return labels AND RETURN postage. (2.50 pounds sterling !! for UK users, payable to `Aston University') Outside UK please ask me. !! UK users send 4.25 for two tapes or 6.60 for three tapes. !! Send to !! !! P Abbott !! Computing Service !! Aston University !! Aston Triangle !! Birmingham B4 7ET !! !! A VMS backup of the archive requires 2 (two ) 2400' tapes at 6250bpi. !! Remaining details as above. !! !! A VMS backup of TeX 2.991 plus PSprint is available one tape is needed. !! !! Exabyte tape drive with Video 8 cassettes. !! !! Same formats available as 1/2in tapes. We use the following tapes !! SONY Video 8 cassette P5 90MP, MAXCELL Video 8 cassette P5-90 !! TDK Video 8 cassette P5-90MPB !! Postage 35p UK (stamp please), 1 pound sterling Europe, other areas 2 pounds !! !! OzTeX - Send 10 UNFORMATTED (800k) disks with return postage. !! !! Replies/submissions to info-tex@uk.ac.aston please !! distribution changes to info-tex-request@uk.ac.aston please !! !! end of issue